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  1. Can we figure out a way to fit politicians into that somehow?
  2. I'd disagree with that, however acknowledge that you are not among those people. My apologies for directing that towards you. I understand the opinion of others, yourself included. I simply don't have an issue with umpires impact on the game. Some don't seem to think that is reasonable or a valid stance. The human element, IMO, includes the human element of the umpires. Others don't. I'm fine with that, others don't seem to be fine with that.
  3. A scoreboard operator has no direct impact on the game or its rules and how they're enforced though. Even the official scorer has no impact on the outcome of a game or how the rules are enforced. That's not even close the same thing. Apples to apples would be the beer vendor selling beer at the incorrect price. Neither has any direct bearing on the outcome of the game. Umpires are directly involved with the game - whether they're robotic or human. We can debate whether that should or should not be the case, which is what we're doing. Again, I'm not here to try to convince anyone how to enjoy the game. I'm simply providing the opposing view point. If you don't like umpires being part of the human element, fine with me. All I ask is that others don't try to tell me how to enjoy the game. You can tell me that broccoli is good until your face turns blue, but that won't make me think it tastes good!
  4. I have tickets, so I don't disagree with that in the slightest. I'm debating whether or not even to make the trip downtown. If it weren't for the magnet schedule (the one giveaway I covet), there'd be little chance that I do.
  5. LEN III says that he's talked to Twins officials and they say that they're going to try to wait it out and get the game in tonight. Whether the weather (ha!) accepts this plan is another story however.
  6. I cringe just reading that...
  7. If one order is Amazon Prime eligible and the other is not, I would consider that to be a violation of the PED policy.
  8. I hardly see that as apples to apples. If there's a clock malfunction in football or basketball, it does get corrected and it gets corrected by the officials. Besides, each team knows the score and so do the umpires. They're all keeping score. And again, I'm not trying to convince anybody to change their minds. I'm simply presenting the opposing viewpoint. I realize that I'm not going to change anyone's mind and I'm completely fine with that.
  9. And I see the umpires as being a part of that human element. That's really the only difference here. By "entertainment" I basically watch for the same reasons as you. I enjoy the stress of it. I enjoy the competition of it. That's all entertaining to me. I don't enjoy the arguing about blown calls either, so I don't partake because to me it's part of the game. I enjoy the (civil) arguing about strategy of the game and the like. The officials don't really interfere with how I watch or enjoy the game.
  10. I'm not arguing that they are the same thing. They are two very different things. I've actually stated that a few times in this thread already. My issue with automated strike zones is that I don't have a problem with the human error element. My other point is that I see automating the strike zone as a gateway to more automation. Once error is eliminated from home plate, it'll be desired elsewhere - leading to more replays in all likelihood.
  11. This particular issue, no. Assuming the call is instantaneous as if it were the umpire making it, I don't see there being a delay. What I've said in other posts is that I just see this is a gateway to more automation. People seem to want perfection, so why wouldn't that perfection eventually spread to all plays? It seems somewhat illogical to me that one would expect to eliminate human error at the plate but not in other aspects. When replay was first introduced, many poo pooed the snowball effect that technology would play. Well, that snowball is getting larger. Aside from not having an issue with the human error in sports, I'm simply saying that I'd like the snowball to stop rolling before it gets too big.
  12. But that's what I'm afraid of - everything being reviewable and/or being made by a computer. That's not entertaining to me and sports are entertainment. Having things automated to the point of eliminating human elements is not my idea of entertainment. It may be yours, but it is not mine.
  13. But it is my point and it is the way I view the game. I'm not debating you, I'm pointing out an opposing point of view. I'm not asking you to side with me. I'm not asking you to change your mind. I'm simply conveying the opposing view. Not everyone views this in the same light as you do. We're entitled to our opinion, just as you are. That's all I'm saying. In your mind the umpire error is unacceptable, to me it's just another facet of the game. There's no right or wrong answer here, it's an opinion.
  14. Correct. I can see two, maybe even three under certain circumstances, but not all of them at the same time. You've got to give yourself a chance offensively.
  15. I like that Rocco is rotating guys pretty regularly. I don't like how he tends to rotate all of his bench players in for the same game like it was a line change in hockey. Gotta leave some horses in to carry the load.
  16. I was at that game with my wife sitting straight up from 3B about half way up the lower bowl. I remember my wife asking to leave by the 4th inning and I refused because I kept telling her that you never know when something special will happen. She never understood why I refused to leave a game early. She soon figured it out! That grand slam ball was crushed. I don't recall seeing many balls hit that far in BP let alone a game. I knew it was gone as soon as it left the bat. Half of those that attended the game had left already and yet that place was shaking as Kubel trotted around the bases. That was place was electric. I'll never forget that atmosphere. Hard to believe it's been 10 years already. My wife never asks me to leave a game early anymore. She understands.
  17. And I don't like those either. That's what the previous comment that you quoted was related to. I don't think the automation will stop until umpires are ultimately removed from the game and/or everything is reviewable. I won't find that entertaining at all. That's ultimately my point.
  18. That particular comment was more general in nature rather than aimed at balls and strikes, but you're correct in that there wouldn't be much. I'm not sure there would be any real pace impact by it. But that isn't my quarrel in this particular case. I do see it as a type of gateway to larger rolls though, which would (potentially) lead to delays.
  19. I don't want to speak for others, but I think the point is that we don't necessarily see missed calls as being "bad". We see it as a part of the game. It's not about taking something good away. Do we want them to occur, no but we also don't want errors and mental lapses to happen either. We see it as a part of the game just like anything else the players do. We figure that breaks one way or another even out over the course of a season. Players often don't get rewarded for things they do well. Berrios got tagged for a HR on a brilliant pitch in Philly. HR's get robbed fairly routinely by a defender. Sometimes they get rewarded for things they do poorly but it somehow works out anyway. Obviously that's not how you and others look at it, and that's fine. To each their own. Others simply enjoy the game in a different way.
  20. This is a fair point, but I'd rather see them use the tech to show them where or even how to improve rather than make/fix the call for them. Use information to make yourself better, not do it for you.
  21. ultimately, this is the problem that I have with tech in sports. Replay has ruined sports for me. Delays of any sort ruin the flow the game. They ruin key parts of a game. The micoranalysis of everything gets blown out of proportion. I don't want to wait 30 seconds for a manager to decide whether to challenge a call or not. I then don't want to wait 3 minutes to see if the call is overturned or not. Sitting around and slowing a play down to 1/10 second/frame isn't entertaining. At that point, I don't even care what the right call is. If I wanted perfection and robots umpiring, I'd quit watching real baseball and just flip on a video game simulation. If the point of adding robots calling balls and strikes to get things right, then why are people not clamoring for every potential play to be reviewable? Because that's what it's going to take to eliminate the human element from officiating. A game, in any sport, full of endless replays is not something I'm interested in. That's a big reason why I quit watching the NFL. People also seem all too accepting that the tech is right. It very well might be, I can't dispute any of it, but I'm not really willing to just fully accept something just because it's a fix to something I don't like. Other's opinions obviously vary and that's fine, but automated officiating not something I find entertaining at all. Life isn't fair, so I don't see anything inherently flawed about umpires making mistakes. they're humans, it happens. players make mistakes, it happens. Sorry about the soap box... {sheepishly steps off soap box}
  22. I've been told, repeatedly, that pitchers are the best athletes on the team though!
  23. If only they had signed a guy to hit in the middle of the order. If. Only.
  24. That was about as deep as Eddie's bomb!
  25. Drink more, it might make more sense. Trust me, I'm a stranger on the internet!
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