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  1. Idk why we need to imply he'd be a malcontent to justify the move. What is this culture?
  2. Agreed, but even then I think there's an argument to be made that downgrading at 3B and C wasn't necessary to fill the hole at SS. I'm treating the Gray trade as a separate entity, but if they don't buy an elite SS it certainly calls that move into question.
  3. This is where I'm at. Story can be had for money, which they had plenty of prior to dumping Donaldson's salary. The Twins are now worse at C and 3B in addition to a hole at SS. If Story, or another big move happens, the NY swap will certainly be spun as the Twins "needing," to clear space, but the $40M+ gap between current day and payroll the previous season says otherwise.
  4. This. It's only 2 years (doubtful he's extended) but it's also badly needed stability. A LOT still has to go right for this staff if the Twins are going to actually be competitive, but this is a step. Mike is right too, this move makes the first round of FA even more head scratching.
  5. Yeah Idk Mike, my post was in reference to the framing. I'm staying away from the rest of it.
  6. They wouldn't shell out for front end guys but they'll pay mediocre vets $20M? Yikes.
  7. They don't have to be, and nobody is arguing they should be. They're $40M+ short of last season's payroll right now. There's room to spend and it's painfully obvious they won't be tossing all that cash at the rotation. Did you watch Garver and his .875 OPS last season? You want to plug a .670 OPS into the 5 hole? That GG came at 3B, in a 60 game season; he was a league average defender at SS last year.
  8. 100% agree, I think it was a long shot regardless, but that ship sailed the moment they decided to sit out the initial FA wave. To me this move doesn't make them better in the interim, it's not setting them up at the position for the future, and it seems like floor is being prioritized over ceiling, which doesn't make sense if you aren't going to be competitive. I can't speak for Chief, but that's how I read the "losing move," comment. Technically it wouldn't have to be 2 WAR right? They gave up an equivalent amount to bring in IKF. It's really the Jeffers/Rortvedt platoon, which was probably a tick below replacement level last season, vs. whatever hypothetical they could've slotted in at SS.
  9. Am I missing something when it comes to IKF's defense? He won a GG but it was at 3B in a 60 game season. His numbers at SS last season look average to me. Unless he starts hitting I don't see the value in swapping Garver for him, especially if each player only has 2 years remaining.
  10. They traded Mitch Garver for a guy who's average defensively at SS and below average offensively. Rortvedt struggled mightily last year, and Jeffers wasn't great with the bat, even by catching standards. I wasn't sure there was a worse option than Simmons returning but this has me rethinking that stance...
  11. You can never have too much of a good thing...
  12. Conversely I think it could also de-incentivize mediocre teams. Why spend money in FA or prospect capital in trades to add proven talent when you can sell hope, shoot for 84 wins, and back into the postseason?
  13. Or an uptick in pitching changes as guys wear down sooner during the course of a game. Hopefully it's the former.
  14. It begins and ends with accessibility for me. Legal streaming shouldn't be such a f***ing hassle/impossibility. My hometown in IA is blacked out from viewing the 6 "surrounding," MLB teams. KC and STL are 7 hours away by car. That's ridiculous. There are some other great suggestions in here, but until MLB is willing to put the product in front of people, i.e. make it accessible, the impact of these other solutions won't be enough.
  15. I'm curious how much of the time saved will be eaten up by added pitching changes as starters continue throw fewer and fewer innings and pitch counts run higher with hitters failing/refusing to put balls in play early in the count. I'm all for speeding up aspects of the game, and I'm not against a clock, I just view it as band-aid for a bullet wound of sorts when the root cause of the slow down is a fundamental shift in the way the game is played.
  16. Drellich was on Ryen Russillo's latest Ringer podcast as well. Also worth a listen.
  17. Oh but I did. Remember that part about the collective always being greater than any slice you wish to cut from it? Again, that's not even an actual counter-argument. It's also why I didn't take the bait on going down the WAR rabbit hole.
  18. This tends to be lost anytime the topic comes up. The mere mention of trading for a single player ruffles feathers to such a degree that any such transaction becomes "selling the farm," "mortgaging the future," or is characterized as a stupid baseball decision, despite the fact that even the best rotations in the game rely on help outside of the organization. I'm not tied to Montas either, and I've said as much, but if the FO truly believes that a few members of this prospect group will lift the team back to WS contention, then I see a ton of value, both presently and in the future, in acquiring a stable rotation piece around which to integrate the upcoming arms. Obviously you'd want that stability for more than just 2 years.
  19. This entire thread is a debate about whether or not the Twins should be spending in FA and/or trades to improve the rotation. The Rays were brought up as an example of why the Twins should cling to every arm they have, and when it was pointed out that TBs rotation relied rather heavily on FA signings and trade acquisitions you shifted the goalposts. Love it. WAR for Wacha and Hill isn't relevant to the point that was made; it's a purposeful distraction.
  20. Rasmussen was acquired midseason, and Collin McHugh made a handful of starts for them as well. When you break it down nearly 50% of the Rays' starts last season were made by pitchers that spent no time in their minor league system. This whole thing went off the rails when the risk of signing a high value FA was equated to running out a rotation of Bundy + prospects. There's no coming back from that.
  21. No, listing a couple starters having a down year in SD doesn't invalidate my talking points anymore so than me rattling off successful FA signings/trade acquisitions proves I'm correct. I could easily ask you to list examples of teams that started with a rotation equivalent to Bundy + prospects, refused to spend in FA or acquire talent via trades, and was competing within 2 years, but that's an exercise in futility, particularly with you. Oh, you mean the number of teams willing to pay via FA or trade to acquire top end talent is small? You literally cannot acquire something another team doesn't have, i.e. you can't trade for a player until that individual has been drafted by/signed to another team, so of course the "total impact," of the collective is greater. You're not actually arguing anything by pointing that out. Mike just posted an interesting FG article about managing prospect expectations and they touch on the team building aspect at the end. Check it out.
  22. The Cubs example was particularly striking, and every member of that quartet was a top 100 prospect. The Twins have 2 pitchers, Winder at 88 and Balazovic at 91, that fall into that group....
  23. I haven't see the argument that the prospects can flame out and this team will still be fine, but I skim. The math doesn't exactly work in a way where 12 of X is better than 1 of Y. I'm pessimistic about the FO signing a trade acquisition as well, but I've grown exhausted by the notion that their self imposed handicaps, which played an integral role in the disaster that was last season, are now vital parts of a plan to getting the team back on track. The angst over certainty seems to be hyper focused on one side here.
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