I think Seth was saying a lot would have to happen to make Berrios the #5. For contractual reasons, Hughes, Santana, and Nolasco aren't going anywhere. Gibson and May have had success in the bigs. That's 5 right there, without even bringing up Milone. Furthermore, Berrios has 2 starts at the AAA level, and while I fully believe he'll be better long-term than Duffey, Duffey was solid in AAA last year, and even better this year--he's earned a shot, and should get that shot before Berrios at this point. If JO picks it up, and Duffey stumbles, switch that, but right now Duffey is ahead, IMO.