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I guess the question I'd have is how Javier has less uncertainty. He's got a big problem with health. No one is arguing the higher ceiling, but if wagers were being placed on the guy that doesn't ever make the bigs, there would be few betting on Gordon. Honestly, I think the PV vs. FV asset rankings is insanely hard to do personally.. and much of that depends on where the team is now. A contending team will be far more interested in PV and a last place team will be interested in FV... We're probably more FV heavy, though contention is not out of the question.
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I personally suspect that Gordon's second half issues are a big reason why all the strength/conditioning guys were let go.
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Article: 3 Reasons I'm All In on Nelson Cruz
diehardtwinsfan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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I won't cry too much over losing Austin, though I do think he's got a ML future. I'd prefer we go with 12 pitchers and 4 hitters on the bench any given day. That's just me. I think if Baldelli can manage our pitchers a bit better than Molitor, we won't need 13 pitchers. The downside is that whole flexibility thing (though we should always have a decent hitter on the bench in a key spot)... 1B/DH and pretty much locked up by 3 guys. Now the flip side is you can give Gordon a look if a MI gets hurt, and I suspect he will get off to his usual hot start and have us clamoring to call him up in May... There doesn't really appear to be much in the way of a fall back plan for Sano. I have no idea what type of arm Austin or Cron have, but it would be nice if one of them had a decent enough arm where they could shift to 3B if Sano ends up on the DL. We don't have any depth there in the high minors... might not be a bad place to put a 4A type guy in Rochester. Those guys do occasionally catch fire and turn into pleasant surprises.
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Article: 3 Reasons I'm All In on Nelson Cruz
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Article: Romero Ready to Ink the Pen?
diehardtwinsfan replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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I think his point had more to do with some of the attitudes that came in (Morrison and Lynn in particular), both of whom were expecting big contracts. Schoope specifically requested a 1 year deal, Cron was a waiver claim, and Cruz wasn't going to get a multi year deal. You aren't dealing with a bunch of disappointed vets here for what that's worth.
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believe it or not, it was our offense that dragged the team down last year, not the pitching. Yeah, we definitely could have used (and still could) use a better arm or two in the pen, but we had abysmal production through out too much of the lineup, especially at hitter friendly positions such as 1B/DH. Falvey went out and fixed that this offseason. Now I agree that without a Sano/Buxton rebound, we likely will have our work cut out for us, but the front office has done a good job attempting to shore up what was without question the biggest weakness on the team... and I'd add that it might provide a little protection for some of those younger players.
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Article: Rundown: Twins Pursuit of Pitching
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It's probably worth noting that all 3 of Gibson, Pineda, and Odorizzi would be eligible for QOs this offseason. If they all pitch really well, then obviously, we will be getting 3 picks, though likely not diving into the FA market. What's more likely to happen though is that at least one of them will pitch well enough to earn a QO, but not well enough to get a mega deal... at which point they accept it and are back here. That may be why the FO chooses not to extend any of them. I'm guessing that you can pencil one of these guys into the 2020 rotation without signing an extension.
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Thing to remember about a guy like Duran is he's much like a guy like Kluber when Kluber was acquired. He has potential, but there's a lot of uncertainly... The nice thing is that we have one of the guys that helped get Kluber running our FO... hopefully guys like Duran or Acala turn into a nice piece like Kluber did for Cleveland.
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Article: Reviewing 2018 Breakout Prospects
diehardtwinsfan replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
yeah, looking back, both of the Wells brothers could have been on the breakout list (though if I remember right, Lachlan was hurt)... Not sure I'd put Tyler on it this year as he's already broken out so to speak. I think the question here is ceiling, but the results (thus far) have been pretty good. Hope he continues. Thorpe was a pretty good pick. When you think about it, he was ranked pretty highly prior to his lost seasons. He destroyed the GCL at 17. Yeah, I know it's the GCL, but he was still in High School. He'd have been a first round draft pick had he been US born and entered the draft. Kind of curious who would be on those lists in 2019. There's a lot of young, high-ceiling talent in the minors. One or two of those guys could easily break out in big way. -
I guess the question I'd ask is what Odorizzi did differently to pitch much better down the stretch. If I were to extend Odorizzi and not Gibson, I'd want to be pretty comfortable that someone figured something out and that it's repeatable. Gibson was the much better pitcher of the two, and in a vacuum I'd rather extend the better pitcher. I do think there's some merit here to extending someone. The 2019 rotation (as it stands now and baring injury) will include Berrios and presumably Mejia. May is a possibility, but that ship has sailed I suspect. I think Romero is a safe bet there as well. That's 3 spots. Perhaps two of Gonsalves, Littell, Slegers, Thrope, Graterol, Stewart, and Wells step up well enough and make this a moot point, but there's definitely some logic to having someone else locked down or we will be needing to go the FA route (and sadly, I suspect they would end up doing a 1 year deal). Of course the other side to this is that pitchers are risky. He could sign that 3 year extension and blow his elbow out this spring.
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Seems a bit too early to be talking Sano, Buxton, and Lewis... So far, none of them have had ML careers worth retiring... I'd vote for Santana and Morneau if I were retire some more numbers.
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Item 3 is probably the reason why you do it. If the twins think that turnaround is for real, then I think they should do it. If not, I'd pass. Of course, on the flip side, I'm sure Jake is well aware of his second half turnaround too and if he and his agent thinks it's repeatable, I doubt you get too much discount. There's always that injury risk, so something both Jake and Kyle would have weigh if they get extended.... That said, didn't realize Gibby's WHIP was so high. He's a ground ball pitcher, is he not? So doesn't that tend to lead to higher strand rates and DPs?
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Article: Arbitration Decisions Looming
diehardtwinsfan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
You and me both, and I'm guessing crow isn't served medium rare. I'm not ready to give up on the guy, but I do think his clock is ticking. I don't think Kepler's lack of production is simply bad luck as has been often suggested here (to be fair, I don't buy into 'luck' as an explanation for the most part). I do, however, think (or at least hope) that there's enough talent that whatever is holding him back can be corrected. Last May, someone wrote an article about Kepler's breakout and how the best is yet to come. It was a 1 month sample, but a pretty good month... and he's done that a few times. That's usually a sign that there's something good going on, even if he hasn't harnessed all of it yet.- 54 replies
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Article: Arbitration Decisions Looming
diehardtwinsfan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Yeah, Kepler is certainly one to not sleep on. I'm hoping his issues are correctable. If they are, look out.- 54 replies
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Article: Rundown: Twins Pursuit of Pitching
diehardtwinsfan replied to Tom Froemming's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Last year was his debut, and he was pretty good for a while until the league started to catch up with him. That's pretty normal, and it's hardly unreasonable to expect him to adjust moving forward. and yes, the idea will stop him from getting put in the rotation. He has to be stretched back out to return to the rotation, so if they go with him in that role starting 2019, he's set in that role for 2019. More importantly, he needs to get that workload up on his arm, and that won't happen with him sitting in the pen in MLB. The MLB pen makes more sense as he nears an innings limit. -
Article: Rundown: Twins Pursuit of Pitching
diehardtwinsfan replied to Tom Froemming's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
considering that's a standard line with any guy with above average starting capabilities, I'm not so sure it means much. In Romero's case, there's certainly a question of durability, though I'd be really curious if there's a correlation between guys who weren't durable as starters making very durable relievers. -
Article: Rundown: Twins Pursuit of Pitching
diehardtwinsfan replied to Tom Froemming's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I need a love button for this... I do not understand the infatuation with moving a guy who could be a well above average starter to the pen.

