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Article: The Middle And Its Dangers
Hosken Bombo Disco replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
In a couple of different paragraphs you mentioned the service clock issue. I think Willihammer made a really good point. With Berrios on the 25-man, maybe Molitor would have swapped Berrios into the rotation for Pelfrey, and probably rode Berrios harder than Ryan was comfortable with. It's certainly a plausible explanation, unlike most of the other explanations floated out there. It's also not something Ryan would come out and state directly to the media. All of this could have and should have been handled differently. At least we got Duffey somewhere in the middle of all that. -
33 always, that is the nicest thing I think I've even seen written on here--thank you!
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Bucknor was way too liberal in calling that back door curve for a strike. Many of those pitches started too far outside and never made it back over the plate. Ironically Escobar reached out and hit a single on that same curve ball the other guys were getting rung up on. And then Duffey wasn't getting the low strikes. I thought Duffey pitched well even if the boxscore looks like he suddenly imploded and was maybe left in a couple batters too long. That's why they pay Molitor and not us
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Rosario lead off single. It was 4-0 when I turned it on, now 4-5, so I'm going to do Twins Territory and tune out for the night. Thanks all, I will lurk to make sure I don't miss anything. Great set up Riverbrian!!!
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you could be right about that. Somebody once said in a Parker pitch framing thread said Suzuki had short arms. It sounded silly but there may be something to that.
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yep
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I think the called strike one would be more appropriate for this game, but whatever, great gif anyway
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The 'F' in Casey Fien's last name actually stands for f***
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Nice. Pretty much. The Latin word for left handed is: "sinister" (no joke) Maybe Bucknor is left handed......
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If only all the veterans could hit as well as Miguel Sano and Eduardo Escobar........
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remember you can only drive 15 mph through Ontario
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Duffey was pitching fine, his pitches were just a bit out of the strike zone. As weird as that is to say.
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Horrible third strike call. Keep your shirt on, Torii.
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I'd like to hear one of the Twins Daily writers give one good reason why Berrios pitched 6 innings and 91 pitches tonight. EDIT: you could argue the Twins are genuinely not concerned with an innings limit, given how young and strong he is. But gee whiz, leave a little in the tank for him Maybe they'll use him in the bullpen? This team just gets me sometimes.
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Works for me, though there's really no playing time to be had for either of them.
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Provus interviewed Antony who basically said it will be either Santana or Polanco, one but not both.
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At this late stage, what are the mechanics for getting Berrios on the 25-man prior to Sept 1st, so that he can cleanly qualify for a possible postseason roster? Can players on the 25-man still be optioned? I am envisioning a situation where Berrios replaces O'Rourke tonight or tomorrow and some third player removed from the 40 man. Like you, I'm not sure what Ryan needs to see in this Berrios start tomorrow night. (Talk about SSS). Hopefully it will be a 2 inning start, followed immediately by a shower and trip to the airport.
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ah thanks. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150406121354.htm Guilty of hasty reply before reading further in thread.
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True. Not all innings look alike. I think Mike could be right. Link? Foggy memory, but I seem to recall when Johan pitched his no hitter for the Mets, some article showed that pitchers faced most risk when pitch count exceeded something like 130 pitches in a game. Johan needed more pitches than that, and didn't pitch well anytime thereafter, so the narrative became that his no hitter ended his career. I hope that's wrong so that someone will be motivated to correct me, but pretty sure I read that
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I approve. IIRC the Nationals used the "hard innings" method on Strasburg the year he came back from TJ, instead of the look feel method, and their postseason ended in disappointment with their best pitcher watching from the bench (TJ is a little bit different beast, I admit). There's no hard inning limit, but you don't want to blow past that 20-30% bench mark with complete disregard, either. I assume the Twins would manage Berrios's innings so that he can pitch as late into the season as is needed. This is tricky, but in a good way!
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Hypothetical post-season
Hosken Bombo Disco commented on South Dakota Tom's blog entry in South Dakota Tom's Blog
Pelfrey is an interesting option. You could pitch Pelfrey and hope he is on his game. If not, yank him immediately. Molitor has not been afraid to do that with him. Tim Hudson got the hook in the second inning of Game 7 last fall. Outside the box thinking -
Hypothetical post-season
Hosken Bombo Disco commented on South Dakota Tom's blog entry in South Dakota Tom's Blog
I think you are absolutely right, Charlie Brown. Berrios. Why not? All the current starters give me a queasy feeling in any potential wild card game scenario. Trevor May must also pitch in that game at some point. Another idea would be to start Duffey but if his curve isn't getting swings and misses, pull him out, hopefully while the score is still low. Then bring in Trevor May for several innings if necessary, a la Bumgarner Game 7. -
This is a fascinating question. If you are a manager would you rather have a starter you can use just once every fifth day, and who is going to surrender an unknown number of runs over an unknown number of innings? Or would you rather have a guy who you can use twice in those five days, on days and innings of your choosing, who you are confident will not allow any runs? Yet moving from starter to reliever was clearly a demotion in this case. Half the rotation was in line for a demotion before May, but somehow May made the most sense. Maybe pay Trevor May as a starter but use him as a reliever?
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I would bet there is a whole lot of groupthink and consensus opinion that goes into those industry rankings. They are basically accurate but the organizations who rely on them most are not going to have any meaningful advantage. Maybe in some weird way, that does invalidate them. I am thinking of the rankings for the amateur draft here. I'd also bet the Twins knew Duffey had a faster spinning curve than the scouting reports said, and that's why he was promoted somewhat quicker than expected.
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I saw the 7th and 8th inning last night (the long delay worked to my benefit ) and I loved how Duffey and Suzuki seemed to call curveball for many consecutive pitches batter after batter. It was working, so why not? No need to "mix in" any other pitches last night when the Orioles are eating out of your hand. Obviously not every game will develop that way but yeah Duffey is fun to watch right now and very glad to know there is some sound science behind his success. He will also throw a fastball inside for a ball, just to shake the batter up a bit. Love it.
