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  1. Personally I like this deal and given what even average pitchers are going for this seems like a pretty good deal to me. I agree that you can never bank on an arm not breaking down but again given the market and how well he pitched last year I think Hughes is under selling himself. If Hughes continues to be a good pitcher adding the two years is huge as most of the young pitchers in the system should be up by then. Time will tell but I like this deal.
  2. Hate to be a killjoy but when have the Twins ever acquired an obvious talented player that multiple teams wanted? This bidding war is for the big players. The high revenue teams. With Plus, plus speed and a real good hit tool you might be talking Buxton\Trout prospect status so this guy is going to cost some significant ching. Twins aren't in that league so no need to worry about it. I am probably the only homer that hopes the Twins don't go over the limit as I like to think they wear a white hat. Given the state of the market and change of strategy there might be no other option but it is a bit depressing to see teams break\ruin the rule that they created to create fairer competition for assets. Thanks Theo.
  3. Although my definition of ace is different I can concede that the numbers do not back up my assumptions that you need an ACE to win a world series. Looking at Ryan's comment again I can see that I likely put words in his mouth when I heard the words solid rotation and not needing an ace. I think I am hyper sensitive to pitching talk having witnessed the last several years or poor pitching so any talk of average pitching strikes a nerve. Yep get to the payoffs get hot and win it all. I can get behind that. Just don;t try to sell me on Pelfrey and Corriea or some other reclamation project to get us there. I am really tired of having one of the worst pitching staffs in baseball.
  4. I am kind of hoping for one of the college pitchers. I think that could maximize the number of good to great pitchers we have coming up in 2017. Some of the pitchers we think are gonna make it will fail so would like to increase the odds around that time frame as most of our young good players should be in the Majors.
  5. Man those have to be some pretty long odds. I wonder if that has ever happened before? That is interesting. The underdog lost in the WS though right?
  6. Seems to be have been proven true this year. Both teams were wild cards so there you have it. It is whoever gets hot at the right time, but I think most teams want the best odds they can get and better players = better odds.
  7. yep I agree the Ace level bullpen won that game for them and several that followed as well. If they were average they likely would have lost.
  8. That is true and mine is pretty liberal. Often times it wouldn't even be stats through the entire year that determine it for me but how they are pitching near the end of the season. That is why I used stopper and not just ace in my description. My only complaint is that if great pitching doesn't really matter to win a world series. Why all the hand wringing over FIP and xFIP and on and on to measure when in the end it doesn't really matter if you are a great pitcher or not. I don't get that.
  9. Sometimes it takes more than one to get there.
  10. I wouldn't say Shields pitched all that well in the playoffs but Ventura was their stopper and pitched like one. The team with the Ace and better pitching did win it. What the Royals did have was dominant ace like pitching from their bullpen. I tend to agree with Nick that if you want to go far you better have at least one guy that is ace caliber. The Ryan way got us to the playoffs but one and done too many times. Beane recognized the ace pitching truth as well and tried to get better but it didn't work out for him because they somehow lost their hitting. I agree baseball is fickle and the team with the best pitching staff might not make it but by and large pitching wins it. I don't see many teams looking for average pitching to make it to the playoffs. Best to have ace or stopper if you want to win the World Series.
  11. Nice link! I am hoping for a college pitcher with ace upside so that we have plenty of pitching options in 2017. I don't ever want to live through the horrible pitching we have the last four years. Kinda wish we had that early second rounder as a few of these guys are going to slip. Oh well the Twins seem to draft better after the second round anyway.
  12. I guess I for one ignored your premise. Although i do agree with you that those positions can typically be filled in house or cheaply the White Sox have been bad in those areas and needed to take fairly drastic measures if they wanted to fix them quickly. For myself I look at resource allocation with a wide view. I think the Twins have more money wrapped up in their rotation than the WhiteSox with far worse results. The Twins have a potentially declining first baseman taking up 20M per year and I don't think the Whitesox have that kind of problem right now. So in my view the WhiteSox had the money to waste so speak to get better now and they used it to do that. Your premise is still correct but in the grand scheme of allocating dollars I don't see that it hurts them that much. Thus I don't think the moves are that bad and ultimately make them better. How much better will depend on injuries as they don't have much depth.
  13. I agree in theory with what you are saying but holistically I think the Sox addressed some pressing needs. Their starters typically gave them the lead going into to 6th inning but their bullpen failed far too often last year. Even though they over payed they had to address that to get better and they did. Their GM says they are not done addressing the bullpen. They have two young very good starting pitchers adding a third makes their rotation as good as any in the division. They didn't give up the farm and Smarzda could be a bridge to Rodon or maybe they will sign or extend him as well. I think they have flexibility there and they still have a very good shortstop and I think 2nd baseman in the minors for infield depth. They lacked clutch hitting last year and seemed to struggle to score runs. They went out and got a guy who can get on base and hits extremely well. Put it all together and they have addressed a lot of the things they needed to become competitive in the division. They lack depth in areas but they excel in others. I think those moves have the potential to make then a very competitive team. Could they have done better for less. Sure I think they could have but they had to outbid other teams to get what they wanted and overpay they did. I don't agree with the money they gave to the closer that is really my only quibble with the moves. The rest seem solid and address significant needs. FWIW I think they did a nice job.
  14. Gotta say I like what the Sox have done. I quibble with paying so much for Robertson but with their rotation and adding some better offense I think they are set to be a force for several years now. Only thing that messes this up is injuries. They have the toughest thing to find and that is very good starting pitching. They lost a lot of games late last year so improving the bullpen is big for them. Upgrading Viciedo should help. I really like their chances the next three years or so. At the very least I am jealous of the moves. I am excited about the Twins young players but 2015 looks like a long year considering the competition in our division. Once we get some young star players up and working the Twins better pay players to stay as a five to six year rebuilding plan really sucks. Still I tip my cap to the Whities. I think they will be much better next year.
  15. Agreed, but from what I understand most teams don't necessarily value him as starter but as a utility player. Granted that kind of is his current role but he held his own and then some last year so I think he can be a very good starter. The question is will another team feel the same way and give us something decent in return. I don't think anyone will and I think in that case he has more value for the Twins in his current role.
  16. I wouldn't trade Dozier as his talent, Power, speed, defense is hard to find at 2nd base. I would be reluctant to lose Escobar as he is likely more valuable to the Twins than what he is worth in a trade. He is a great insurance policy should Santana face a sophomore slump or someone in the infield gets injured long term. I agree his value may never be higher but get a very good piece then or we will likely regret losing him this year for sure. FWIW I do believe he can and will be a good to very good MLB shortstop.
  17. I am not in love with the pick but given what was left to pick from it probably makes the most sense. I don't think the Brave would have left him unprotected if they thought he had great potential. The Braves must believe he will only have average stuff at best. The Braves are usually right. They were right about Diamond and Gillmartin and I suspect they will be right about Graham. I guess time will tell. I was hoping the speedster would fall. Always nice to have those fast pinch runners for when the other team walks the slow HR hitter. If the guys bat got better over time then that would make it a really good pick. Oh well we still have a lot of fun players to watch anyway.
  18. Unless the Twins and Lirano are confident that he is going to do well I don't see Minnesota as a good spot for him. There is already a history of disappointment and if he struggles his past will haunt him quickly in Minnesota not so if he goes elsewhere. I too am not a fan of giving a high 2nd round pick even though it has been pointed out that several of those have not amounted to much. At least not for the gamble that is Liriano. In this case I think it is better for both parties to look elsewhere.
  19. I am kind of a Hu fan myself. He came out of no where last year and seemed unhitable at times. I wonder if he can find the same level of success Berrios had last year. He seems to have the pitches and a good approach. I like him for my sleeper break out candidate. I like the Gonsalves pick and I have always liked him. That was a heck of a pick for the 4th round. I hope he does move quickly. I also agree with Doc in that I like Thorpe as well. Nice to see a good crop of young arms to get excited about.
  20. Does this mean the Twins really won the bid for the Korean pitcher?
  21. I like Beresford a lot as well. I too thought he would have a better chance elsewhere. As far as I am concerned he has everything you need as a 2nd baseman except power. If he can improve his power numbers I think he is MLB bound.
  22. I am a big Wheeler fan. When moving from high A to AA a pitchers ERA usually goes up pretty significantly. Wheeler stuck around 2 something through all three levels I believe. I think he has things figured out. I would hate to lose him now. Having said that he doesn't throw real hard and could be just another Darnell or Gilmartin it is hard to know but would like to see him for at least one more year. Not a huge Gilmartin fan but I agree a team would likely take him if he was exposed. He seems to run out of gas an give up big innings. Not sure what the deal is but probably should give him another year to see if there is more there than meets the eye. If nothing else you would think he could be trade bait or throw in material. I think those are the only two other guys I would hang onto besides Sano, Rosario and Meyer. Next year this list gets much harder.
  23. Don't the Mets have a pretty good farm system already? So if they have guys coming up but need to fill a few holes to bridge the gap then maybe this isn't as crazy as it seems. If they grab a couple more FA's then maybe they can pull a Baltimore or KC season and keep the guys they have in the farm system. Yeah it messes them up for one year of top young talent but when you have been mediocre this long maybe you need to try something different. In a vacuum I agree with the rest of the board that this is bit of a head scratcher. I have to believe there are other moves to come.
  24. Pretty darn nice Arizona performance by Rosario. I hope he bounces back next year and we see him with the Twins in the not too distant future. Nice job by the relievers as well. Hard to complain about 0 ERA's. Should be exciting watching MILB next year.
  25. To me it didn't seem like they gave him too much on the inside edge but the outside edge my goodness. I don't think I have ever seen such wide pitches called strikes before at least not that consistently. Those calls didn't appear to go both ways to me but i didn't watch every pitch either. I would think a lot of pitchers would do well with the zone he was given. I would love to hear an explanation about why they were called strikes. Do his pitches wrap around enough to give the illusion of being closer than they really are? He seemed to get those calls consistently IMO. Different umps but pretty much the same calls. Maybe he just is that good but from what my eyes saw he appeared to get a lot of breaks on outside calls.
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