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The Twins are All-In on Royce Lewis (Again)
JADBP replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I have very high confidence that Royce can shine as a Twin. The first step was to get rid of Rocco and the nonsensical bullcrap that Royce has had to put up with!!! Like: “Hey Royce, go play 2B today. Oh, and go buy a 1Bman glove too! You’re batting bottom of the order today but might slot you in at #4 tomorrow. One more thing, Royce … can you pitch? “ Rocco was a NUTCASE with Royce.- 36 replies
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I am pretty sure that Buster Posey called up Falvey before the draft and said “Hey Buddy, you owe me one…how’s about you draft that Susac guy and flip him our way? Pick some loser off our low A or lower. We’ll cover the fees…. It’s just like the Louie Varland trade, which made absolutely zero sense (wish I could have used a number a lot lower than Zero there!). But you are right…Falvey seems to have some perverse addiction to trades. I can only guess it is his narcissistic side coming out. It must make him FEEL powerful, smart, maybe even beloved, But in actuality, he’s being suckered by other teams to agree to these inane trades. Maybe he believes we’re gonna love him even more. I think he needs to double check the “Do you approve of the job Falvey is doing ….” polls here on TD!!!
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Lots of chatter here! Yuup it’s hard to say changing the coaches is worth 10 wins! But Rocco had lost the trust of the team and when that happens he HAS to go. I am not saying that Shelton would be that much better but if he is different, that could lead to many wins. There is plenty of talent in the team but it was misused and abused. Pulling lefties in the 4th inning, moving players from position to position, poor training and preparation, crazy usage of RPs, and running Margot out there hoping for at l ast a single hit. Rocco stubbornly refused to learn from his errors. Only when the handwriting was on the wall (he was getting fired) did he try something different (stealing bases). So let’s all hope that Shelly is just DIFFERENT!!!
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I agree....if I were the Mets, I would AT LEAST have Maddon on speed dial as a highly paid consultant, if not head coach or full time adviser. Is Carlos Mendoza really the answer there (an 86 win team)? They are still searching for answers...when they just be paying for answers. Oh well....
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I agree....a 5 win player is fairly rare. But 5 win managers are extremely rare. I really think there are probably only 2-3 managers out there than can take a woefully bad team and make them shine...like a Maddon. Dave Roberts in LAD (even with WS wins) is not one, because the owner loads up the team with massive talent and he just keeps them all running in the same general direction and keeps out of the way. But talent is not the only ingredient...look at the Mets! So, what is wrong here? Its a whole ecosystem, players, managers, coaches, facilities, belief, management, ownership, the whole shebang. Since the Twins have two strikes against us already (ownership (Huge #1!)) and maybe management, the coaches and players might never get to the promised land.
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Well teams just don't play managers the types of salaries that top level player talent command. You will never find a $35 million manager in MLB (maybe decades from now).... just because teams can get away with it.
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LOL.....Well, I can't imagine that Shelton is worth 10 wins, but maybe Baldelli was -5 and Shelton is +5? I can well remember several games that Baldelli just simply blew by his constant substitutions and having players play out of the position that they spent five years learning.
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interesting thought....what is the Baldelli switcheroo worth? 2-3 wins? 4-5 wins? 6-10 wins or even more? Less? Any thoughts, fandom?
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Passan: Buxton Willing To Waive No-Trade Clause
JADBP replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
“At some point, for almost every major league athlete, one begins to crave a role on a team that is competitive. That ship sailed when the Twins failed to properly evaluate their roster and make proactive moves following the 2023 season”. NO! That ship sailed after the ignorant Twins ran up nearly $500,000,000.00 in debt on the team!!! -
Interesting way to look at it. Here’s another interesting approach: if we had made all of these trades minus one—the Varland trade—would we be more likely to declare the deadline fire sale as a WIN? I maintain that the Varland trade was both misguided and unnecessary. The return does not match the upside of Varland. At the high end, he could become the next Joe Ryan in the Twins system. At the low end he’s a #3 in the rotation. I think we could have done better trading the immensely unhappy Ryan for a massive haul.
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DREAM ON! He won't be dropped for nothing. We should all jump at the chance to get Spencer Steer back in the Twins org. He hits bombs and is an outstanding 1Bman. When is the last time we had that? Hrbek or Big Papi? He is ARB eligible and won't be a Free Agent until 2029. What's not to like? But I highly doubt that we can work out a package that wouldn't dig deep into our prospects. He'd be expensive. Maybe Larnach plus a prospect.... The Reds have uber prospect Sal Stewart up now (and learning 1B) as well as Sam Basallo at 1B so Steer might be dispensable to the Reds....
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There is one and ONLY ONE plan this off-season: Cut Costs!!! True story: when an unprofitable company, no matter how rich the owners are, owes the bank $500 million, something’s gotta give. The banks have been putting immense pressure on the Pohlads to make good on the loan. There is no other way this could have went. Period. They suckered some “investors” to buy some equity in the team to keep the banks from foreclosing on the team. The other problem that the Pohlads have is that a large portion of their family wealth has been in commercial real estate. That industry took an immense hit during Covid and it still has not recovered. Like all real estate investors/managers/owners, they are most likely sitting on a lot of unprofitable inventory. Some large commercial buildings in Minnesota have sold for a fraction (5-10%!) of their pre-COVID value. The Pohlads have been in financial hell for a few years now (hence the $500 million in loans against the Twins and their attempts to sell the team). So while we can dream of competing, it just is not going to happen. With the almost certain strike/lockout in 2027, the Pohlads will be losing $$$ every day (no revenue but continued expenses). They need to put away as much $$ as possible or else the Team will just go bankrupt some time in 2027. They should have already but they chose the alternative: sell off the Team. But, they inanely thought new owners would pay $1.5 Billion for the team while taking on the debt . . . AND at the same time allow baby Joe to still run the team! So these idiots have no choice but to tank the payroll and save as much as possible. I will wave a gracious goodbye to Buck, Lopez and Ryan. Probably 2-3 others like Larnach, Wallner or Jeffers. This will be a AAAA team next year. What the idiot owners don’t seem to understand, is that if the team loses 3 outta 4 games with AAAA skill level, the fans will abandon the Twins. Revenue will tank and there will be little money to sock away. They will wish they had sold the team. They can’t fix this.
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OH NO....it IS an indictment of the ownership! I am definitely NOT giving Falvey a pass, he sucks, but Ownership has also heavily contributed to the mess of a team! They are the idiots that ran up $500 million in debt on the team--making it both unsellable and perennially uncompetitive. The inept ownership moves have forced the limited budgets that Falvey has to work with. That said, Falvey has had three strikes against him for some time and is at least half the problem: 1) Poor trading moves have clearly overshadowed his few good trades. 2) Some alarmingly bad free agent signings. 3) Unconscionably horrible strategy for a small-market team.
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Twins Add Grady Sizemore to Coaching Staff
JADBP replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
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Actually I am a little disappointed that Miranda didn't pan out with the Twins...he showed promise. I wish him luck elsewhere. On the other hand, how is Julien still in on the 40-man team? Do they think they can turn him around? By his standards, he sucked in AAA. 3 HR all year. Are they keeping him around just in case of a Keashall injury? Don't they have Clemons for that? Or do they plan on Clemons as a full time 1Bman? I can't see them keeping Julien other than as a project and he could be taking up a valuable 40-man position soon.
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What Free Agent would want to come to the Twins S### Show? I am sure there are some desperate suckers out there somewhere but I have to believe that any player we would want on the team (meaning they are good) would be able to find a better landing spot.
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No sorry I should have been far less unkind. We agree fully on both Falvey and Baldelli. What I disagree with is that Smith “got it right” as Twins GM. He did not. As I pointed out, he made far more bad trades than good ones and the damage he did as GM hurt the org for 2-3 years after he left. He never got close to the GM chair again. He was a pure admin guy with little to no baseball skill. I am sure he is a fine administrator. But, as Falvey shows, GMs today have far more responsibility/control/power over how the on-field team is run. I’m not saying Falvey is good at it, but I am saying that Smith had little understanding of baseball-related decisions (strategy, training, team formation, trade asset values, etc). He went on to finish his career in ADMIN. I apologize, I didn’t mean to offend you. I just jumped on Smith.
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Yeah...this will substantially improve the value of the Twins franchise....like, REALLY??? Are the Pohlad's really believing the insanity of this plan? Strip out all of the value of the team so it is more attractive to potential buyers? That's your plan? That's how you are going to sell the team for MORE money? OMG the absolute stupidity is frightening!
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Are you outta your mind? Lets look at Smith's trades...Santana for Gomez + junk, the Delmon Young trade (that helped Tampa Bay win the WS), the Capps for Ramos trade, the Nishioka signing, trading Hardy)? Smith had three winning seasons (mostly with the team that Ryan had previously built), Then, after all his trading nonsense was fully baked into the team, Smith's Twins went 63/99. His damage to the team was lasting, without another winning season for the next three years after he was fired. Just what went right under Bill Smith? He can take credit for 3 winning seasons with largely the team that his predecessor had built, while he broke it all down. Trading Santana, when he begged to sign a long term deal, was horrible!
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OMG!!! How does stripping down the franchise makes it more valuable? Who wants to invest in a loser? Who wants to invest in a rudderless, talent-starved, no-future team? Who wants to invest in a team where the revenue has been decimated by inane leadership driving fans away?!!?!
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BREAKING: Twins to Hire Derek Shelton as Manager for 2026
JADBP replied to knothole61's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
They chose wrong. Rowson was the guy to get! I just keep wondering....Twins said Rowson interview was amazing...where is he? Still in NY. Dang! Shelton will just be Rocco 2.0. I just don't see a difference between the two. As far as coaches, I like both pitching and batting coaches but I have no idea if Shelton will. Maki has been a great pitching coach, I'm so glad he stepped up. Borgschulte is interesting, but still no traction in hitting just yet. BUT, then look at what Popkins has done in Toronto....so ...just saying...I wonder if there is some other reason that Twin's coaches have such a hard time here in Twins territory? How will that translate to Shelton? Is something/someone tying their hands? Is someone dictating all this crazy **** in Minneapolis, like LH hitters not hitting LH pitching, or forcing players into positions they are not trained for, or concentration on dingers, or positional hitting? I certainly hope that Shelton can stand up to that nonsense and say NFW!!- 250 replies
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Well I think they missed a fantastic opportunity in not getting Rowson! But who knows….maybe he turned down an offer? He was the one guy for whom the interview was said to be “very impressive.” Oh well. As for Shelton, I’d agree that he is simply Falvey 2.0. His job was to take a low budget team with a great farm system and build a functioning team. He failed. So did Rocco. But SO DID OWNERSHIP! Now sure the budget was a bit higher, but you can say the same for SEA, CLE, MKE, and many other smallish market teams. Is this all the Head Coach’s fault? Nope. You need a full MLB franchise system, top to bottom, to win. This includes many coaches, Scouts, analysts, instructors, facilities, planners, and conditioning/medical staff. Oh dammit…wait…Twins have been firing many of them too! And the Twins need a winning strategy. I am sure the main reason they picked Shelton is because he bought in to the Falvey strategy. I’m guessing Rowson had some other plans (and impressive ones too!). So, compare to the above-mentioned teams—just how well has the Falvey/Baldelli/Shelton strategy worked? Good luck Twins! Good luck Twins fans! I’ve cancelled my mlb.tv subscription I have to say I am really enjoying the WS. I’m rooting for TO but both teams are playing excellent baseball. I just wish the Twins would learn some things from TO! But I can’t call them cheap—their payroll is $255 million! Whew But I look at the list of payrolls and many low-payroll teams have far better records Sigh!
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I agree, the RISP stats SUCK! But is that because he foolishly tries to hit homers every AB or because he’s been groomed to be the big bat guy? Has he been taught to get RISP home no matter how, or has he been coached to always go for the dinger? I’ve seen this in so many Twins players —especially HR guys (Wallner, Royce, Miranda, Julien and even an early Buxton). Seems like they have a team hitting philosophy (coached or imagined) to ALWAYS swing for the fences. It’s easier in MiLB so these guys come up thinking they are gonna rack up homers (Royce). Then oppo pitchers find the holes in their swings and they are toast (Royce, Miranda, Julien etc). Theres a belief that hitting lots of homers brings huge contracts. Sure that’s true if you are Aaron Judge. But how many AK’s are there in MLB? I have to say I LOVE Vlad Jr’s play in the WS!!!! Sure he’ll take an HR swing when it presents itself. But with RISP, he is getting a HIT! And better yet, he is scooping all those errant throws at 1B. He came off the bag to scoop a bad throw —knowing that a runner at 1st is a lot better than a runner at 2nd. He’s one smart player! Well trained, superbly coached.. BRW, notice how TO is piling up mid-game runs with small ball? Keep the line moving. Vlad comes up with guys on and gets a hit. I am sure TO is afraid of the dinger but a hit is another precious run. You look up and they just scored 4 small ball runs! and Vlad is out-Schoei-ing Ohtani!!!
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I say Rowson, definitely! Here is the key reason why: he is coming from the NYY where coaches set very high expectations for the players, and give them the tools, training, and coaching they need to achieve these expectations and then hold them accountable. I'd expect that bringing a little bit of that NYY approach to Minnesota would be a good thing!
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