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Outside the box Idea: Trade for Giancarlo Stanton
Mr. Brooks replied to DaveW's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I believe fangraphs uses $8 million per WAR when they calculate how much a player is worth. That is the standard I used. -
Outside the box Idea: Trade for Giancarlo Stanton
Mr. Brooks replied to DaveW's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
No, that's how it works with past their prime types who are overpaid. The contract is a non issue. What do you think he'd fetch if he were a FA this year? There is your answer. -
I'm not sure I agree completely on their morals, though I won't bother with a tangent on it. I do agree with the second part though. And I may be playing grumpy old man (even though I'm not old), but I can't help but blame social media, at least in part, for the war on information and facts.
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Outside the box Idea: Trade for Giancarlo Stanton
Mr. Brooks replied to DaveW's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Stanton was worth $60 million last year, and is right in his prime. Whoever trades for him is taking the whole contract, and I doubt there would even be a consideration of any discount because of it. -
How, specifically, does that hurt their negotiating power? Setting a guaranteed salary floor would, obviously, but how does simply "being open" to spending more hurt?
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Two Veteran Free Agents The Twins Could Target
Mr. Brooks replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I'm also on the side of letting Kepler take his hacks against lefties, at least through the ASB, and reevaluate a possible upgrade at that point. His upside is tremendous, IMO, and he won't improve against lefties without reps. I do understand not wanting to sacrifice results now for progression, but I think it will payoff down the road. -
Forgot to mention, I think privatization of prisons is awful and unconstitutional. I'm with you there.
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Ok well, aside from life for the most severe rape cases, it looks like you agree with me. Saying i wasn't interested in HOW we imprison people was a baseless assumption, and unfair. The only reason i hadn't said anything in that regard specifically, was because I hadn't yet moved past the basic point of imprisonment as a starting point. Prison reform was actually my #1 voting concern coming into Nov. '16 elections, and i think I even posted as much here. I'm all for treatment, absolutely. As long as it's in addition to, or after consequences when there is a victim. A persons right to their mental health ends at the point they commit an illegal act against another person. Perhaps I could have been more vocal about being for treatment as well, but I was put on the defensive right out of the gate. And, I appreciate you answering my questions. It was helpful.
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I'd be all for changing how we manage prisoners. That sounds like a great idea to me. A focus on rehabilitation while in prison, rather than the current system of training grounds for criminals would be much better, I agree. I don't think I've implied otherwise. I read back, and no, nobody explicitly said "never jail under any circumstances", but Psuedo did say only as a last resort. Rehabilitation and deterrent is only one side of the coin. I'm all for that, but the other side of the coin is punishment, and justice for the victim. That side of the coin may not be constructive, but I don't think it has to be. Some crimes need to require punishment, and victims deserve justice, not to be told "the guy who raped you is a victim too". Nowhere here have I claimed those two sides need to be mutually exclusive. I have a hard time believing you or Psuedo would look a sexual assault victim in the eye and tell them they don't deserve justice, the perpetrator is a victim too. Maybe you would, but I don't think so. I'd also like my questions answered. 1) Is any crime severe enough that it should require some jail time at a minimum? Simple question. 2) What consequences do you suggest that don't involve jail time? Real consequences with teeth. I keep hearing, "yes, there should be consequences, but jail doesn't help". Ok, what are these consequences? Maybe I can have my opinion changed.
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Which European countries don't allow jail time for any sex offenses? Arguments such as mine should be dismissed out of hand? My argument is that crimes with a victim should result in consequences, since when is that controversial? I'm not interested in imprisoning anyone and everyone, not even close. I think probably half of our prisoners don't belong in prison. I'm talking about the worst types of crimes. And yes, I think forcible rape should result in life in prison. I'm not talking about less severe offenses, I'm talking about forcible rape. If you do that to someone, you don't deserve to live in society. Look, I suggested a year in jail for less severe type offenses, hardly overly severe. But I didn't take issue with a different opinion on that. I take issue on the stance of completely taking jail time off the table for all sex offenses. I don't think I'm stupid and backwards for disagreeing with that stance. I'd really like you or Psudeo to answer my question. Which, and why, crimes are you ok giving jail time for? Any? If so, where and why are you drawing the line? And what gives you the moral authority to dismiss my argument out of hand, if you do think that some crimes should result in jail time?
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Because none of us can think of any pitchers that had Stewart's k and bb numbers in the minors, and went on to become a good starting pitcher. Perhaps he can be salvaged as a middle reliever for a few years, Matt Guerreir like.
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What can Minnesota offer Shohei Otani?
Mr. Brooks replied to Riverbrian's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I think that was Glen Taylor that had the under the table deal with Joe Smith. -
Can you give me some examples of consequences, real consequences that have teeth, if jail time is not an option? And I don't mean public shame and losing out future millions in earning power, I mean if some average no name committed the offense.
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Ok, well I'm not going to continue a discussion with someone who talks down to me like I'm an idiot because I don't agree with their opinion. It couldn't be that I've read the research and haven't been convinced, no, I'm clearly much too simple minded and back woodsy for that. If you have a link to a peer reviewed study that states definitively that jail time is never a deterrent in any circumstance, I'd love to read it. I already stated that punishment and rehabilitation don't have to be mutually exclusive, but you don't care to acknowledge that, it's easier for you to make baseless, insulting assumptions about me. Therapy should be sought, and granted before the thoughts are acted upon, not only after you've been caught. You still haven't answered my question. Either you agree that some crimes are terrible enough as to require punishment, and just disagree on where that line is - which makes you a hypocrite for talking down to me like this. Or, you don't think jail time is ever appropriate. If that is so, then I'm sorry, I'll never agree, nor do I think many would.
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I'm okay with that.
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You say that the threat of jail time existed and yet these people committed the acts anyway. Perhaps for every person that committed them anyway, another person or two considered committing them, but didn't out of fear of jail time? Your point seemed to me to be that jail time isn't appropriate. I'm asking where, and more importantly why, do you draw the line on what criminal act deserves jail time? It's a completely legitimate question. Not all sexual abuse is mental health. There is often a power/control motivation to it. Even if it were, mental health is not an excuse for actions. Actions still have to have consequences. I'm all for treatment of the thoughts that may precede the action, when it is in fact mental health related, but that is seperate from the act that was committed. There still has to be consequences for that. No, it's never been tried my way. I don't even know what you are referring to there. The criminal justice system is nowhere near "my way". The current system gives a slap on the wrist for these type of crimes (you said so yourself in your initial response, that he wouldn't face time, misdemeanor, etc.), while giving severe penalties to drug offenses. You respond to Chi that assumptions are being made about his motivation, but the only assumption I see is you assuming it's mental health related. Again, how do you know that?
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No way I give up that much for a relief pitcher. They are way to fickle year to year, and give you less than 80 IP per season.
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You may be right, but I keep hearing this is an elite defense. No doubt they are good, but the type of generationally elite defenses that can carry a team to the SB lock it down from the opening snap to the last. Everyone is entitled to a bad day, I get that, so hopefully this was just their 'bad day ', and not a glimpse of something exposeable.
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Yeah, I do think the threat of jail time would cause him and others to think twice about doing this. Losing your freedom is awful. It is a deterrent. Beyond that, what is so bad about punitive punishment? For crimes with a legitimate victim, that's a good thing, not a bad thing. Actions have consequences. If someone beats their wife to death, should they not get prison time? What if they rape a 5 year old? Explain to me where the line is that punitive punishment is okay, and where it's not? And how do you know this is a mental health issue? Are you sure he didn't just enjoy the power?
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Drastic campaign finance reform, for starters.
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Offense was clicking. Keenum showed me something by saying, "if you want my job you'll have to pry it from my hands". I like that attitude in a player. Very concerned about the defense getting torched for 30 points though. I know they were missing Everson, but still, he's just one guy. As good as the offense was today, I still think you're playing with fire if you're asking them to put up 31+ to win.
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I'm not saying there is not a scale, there is. I think forcible rape should be mandatory life without parole. Something like this, I think a year in jail would be fair. This is not a victimless crime, and would be terrifying for the victim. Yes, for crimes with a victim, there should be retribution. I won't apologize for believing that. Sure, for a celebrity like Louis, the shame and career ramifications are going to be severe. But a random Joe might think its worth the risk to pull this kind of garbage if he knows there will be no real criminal ramifications.
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Two Veteran Free Agents The Twins Could Target
Mr. Brooks replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Gibson was putting up a 4.81 ERA in AAA when he was Buxton's age. Gibson has zero upside left, Buxton is full of upside. How is comparing them in 2017 using the same yardstick? -
I know this isn't specifically what this thread was intended for, but I'd like to use it to honor my late grandfather, if I could. He lied about his age so that he could join the Navy, as a 16 year old, in 1943. He saw action in the Japanese theater of WWII as a 17, and 18 year old. I knew he was in the Navy, but didn't know he saw action in WWII until after he passed (2 years ago). It wasn't something he talked about, he didn't display his uniform, or photos or anything. He did it from a sense of duty, and honor, and not for glory or personal gain. As did many, then and now, and everywhere between. Thank you, and RIP Grandpa Lee, and everyone else who served for all the right reasons like my grandpa did.
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Wow, I couldn't disagree more. Crimes like Louis committed are exactly the people that need to be locked up, not drug users like our current justice system locks up.
