Mr. Brooks
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No, I don't give credit for losing, not at this level. Youth sports, sure. These are grown men, part of a billion dollar industry. A loss counts the same whether it's 1 point or 100. In the standings there is no difference, it's just a loss. They lost the game, period. And they should lose to Ohio State, I don't have a problem with that. This didn't start with me ripping them. I just get nauseous thinking about the praise they are going to get for losing by less than they were expected to.
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All that stuff is awesome, honestly. But as long as they (the school) are making millions of dollars from football, and charging for admission, and paying millions to coaches, I still get to judge them by their on field results, separate from whatever great stuff they do off the field.
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Well going 3-3 the rest of the way would qualify as winning some Big10 games, which is what I asked, and you said 3 or 4 years. If they win 3 I'll give him some credit, but I'm just not understanding what anyone has seen to suggest they are capable of really beating anyone in the Big10.
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I mean, this is the kind of tone I'm talking about. A team that hasn't shown it's capable of beating really anyone in the Big10 under Fleck. (2 wins in 12 games!!) And here you are saying they should win more than a couple and maybe Wisconsin. Absolutely nothing they've done on the field suggests they will do any of this. That's the same tone the majority of the local media has since Fleck got here. What is everyone seeing that leads them to believe success is around the corner? Because Ohio State slept through 3 quarters, we're supposed to ignore most Big 10 teams beating up on them every other week? When is the last time they even lost by less than double digits in the Big 10, let alone won? Read the gamer on ESPN1500, you would think they beat Ohio State if you didn't know any better. The Strib beat writer is slightly more objective, but barely.
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You play to win the game. You don't play just to play.
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Keep in mind I'm not talking about competing. Just actually winning a conference game or two. 4 years before we can even ask for that? Unreal. They haven't come close to winning a game yet. (Conference. Not cream puff non conference.)
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Credit for what? Is this Pop Warner, or power 5 conference Division 1 college? Do they really need participation ribbons? They lost to a team they should lose to. But it's still a loss.
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Mccutcheon and Kepler had identical bWAR this year. How is that an upgrade?
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Fleck talked constantly leading up to the season about how this was a much improved team over last year, and that they'd make big strides. It's fair to hold him to his professed expectations. I don't see how they win more than 1 or 2 big 10 games.
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90% of the local media won't say one critical word of Fleck. And at least half praise him relentlessly, despite accomplishing nothing since he's been here. Am I saying fire him? Of course not. I get it takes time. But there seems to be zero progress. If anything they are going backwards. And Fleck makes unbelievably boneheaded decisions every game, there is plenty to criticize. How do you not challenge the spot when it's clearly well short on a pivotal fourth down, while they were still in the game? I'll gladly eat crow every single day if this guy takes us to the promised land, but I'm seeing zero signs that I'll have to.
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At what point can we expect actual victories? (Big10, not non conference) Of course they shouldn't be expected to win at Ohio State right now. But maybe they should actually win a few games that they SHOULD be capable of winning before we start giving them any credit for moral victories.
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I'm sure we'll get all kinds of moral victory style takes by the Fleck boosting local media.
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Mills is younger than Molitor.
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A Tale of Two Paths for Twins
Mr. Brooks replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Ted, you appear to be forgetting about the $5.95 million that the Twins are still on the hook for Hughes next year. -
51% of revenue is pretty well documented, so that's what I'd expect. Of course, we don't see the books, but I'll predict $103 million.
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That would put them at $118.75 million, going by MLB trade rumors estimates, and excluding Grossman. I'm not optimistic that they'll spend that much.
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Butler is still under contract. If he doesn't want to return after his contract expires, I don't blame him. He's not entitled to be traded when and where he chooses. Should the team trade a player on an expiring deal if they don't want to be here? Of course, but the sense of entitlement is still pretty infuriating. If a child warns you that they are going to meltdown and throw a temper tantrum at bedtime, does that absolve them of said tantrum? The Wolves knowing this would happen doesn't make it any less childish. I certainly agree with Levi that this attitude and behavior shines a different light on the reported relationship between him and Towns. Where I previously thought that Butler was just a pro's pro who wanted everyone to win as badly as he did, and perhaps Towns lacked that commitment. I now have to consider that maybe Butler is just a spoiled crybaby. And Tibs has been childish in this process as well, so i certainly won't defend him either.
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Unless the Twins are getting another $50 million check from BAMTec this year (they aren't), payroll is not going to be as high next year. It's well documented that they top out payroll at 52% of revenue.
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An Offseason of Intrigue
Mr. Brooks replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
What on earth is Bada book Bada boom? -
I hope the newly reported story is in fact the real story, for all involved. However, I'm with Tom on this one. The incredibly vast difference between the initial story and the more recent story just doesn't smell right. I get that early breaking news is often inaccurate, but these two stories aren't even remotely in the same ballpark.
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Gleeman & The Geek, Ep 393: Firing Paul Molitor
Mr. Brooks replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Wouldn't changing managers indicate that they do indeed have a vision? It might turn out to be the wrong vision, but IMO standing pat would be more inclined to show a lack of vision. -
This shows how dysfunctional the state of the leadership is on this team. Both that the coaches and GM allowed this to go on, and that none of the players had Tibs/Leyden's back enough to challenge Butler's behavior. I've seen a whole lot of dysfunction in the 25 years that I've followed this franchise, but the current state might just take the cake.
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Miguel Sano Detained In Dominican Republic
Mr. Brooks replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Innocent until proven guilty applies to the government taking your life or liberty away. It doesn't apply to decisions regarding employment statuses, media reporting, or personal opinions of people. None of us have the authority to take his life or liberty, this is not a court of law. -
I'd say it's about as close to a must win game as you can have in week 5. If they lose today, they'd likely have to go 9-2 the final 11 to guarantee a playoff spot.
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Career bWAR: Sano: 5.0 Buxton 6.9 Defense, baserunning, and position matter too.
