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If Bonds puts some more mustard on that throw, the entire franchise history might have dramatically shifted.

Tom doesn't do half measures! This is the best we get as fans. Might I suggest again that other people adopt a second, national league, team to follow because this is going to be a really terrible run of seasons coming up. That they actually think they can be competitive is just so stupid that it's hilarious.

73.5 wins is the over/under for these Twins. And I think I'm taking the under.

Sure. I assume like 8-10 mil per season?

Likewise, I never heard any campaign to bring in Brad Hand.

I think people are really overreacting to how much fans care to watch a local relief pitcher for the Twins. Varland was on the team last year and we saw attendance plummet well before the trade deadline sell off.

This just sounds like nothing but baseless hopes and dreams. What if I posit that the new manager is actually going to have a detrimental effect on Lewis's results because of his complete lack of success in any regard in baseball, having failed (due to injury) as a player and never managing a winning team. That this resume will not allow his veteran players (like Lewis) to ever respect his leadership. That a player, like Lewis, that complained about his manager to the press, isn't exactly the type of player that is really ever going to benefit from a change in leadership because he's never been a player that's listened to leadership, complaining about being asked to play 2B and whining that coaches were mean to young players that were struggling. Do I actually believe this? Not really. But it's as evidence based as this idea that new management will be a boon to Lewis's career, thanks to the ouster of a manager that, by all accounts, bent over backwards to be liked and accommodate his players.

2025 Twins offensive players: per 600 PAs PA WAR/600PA $$ per 600 PA Fringe Roster (waivers, etc) 1142 0.11 $3.52 Free Agent Commits (multiyear/significant deals) 578 0.73 $38.20 Internal (drafted/acquired as prospect) 3645 1.05 $4.44 Free Agent Supplements (1 year vets) 694 3.03 $3.63 No one ever said acquiring Bader and France was going to make the Twins a contender. Everyone understood that they were veteran role players that are compensated at a very fair rate, supplementing the larger roster. And they more than did their job. Why you expect other people to get made at the fact that the Twins sucked despite the front office fulfilling one aspect of roster construction competently, specifically their job of supplementing their roster with some low risk veteran additions. Yes it is. And it's not going to be at all the fault of a minor league SS acquisition. You don't know me then. I am very vocal about how much this team sucks. As I was last season. But I also refused to put any of the blame on the veterans that were doing the job they were paid to do.

This is just undeniable fact. Only someone with a fetish for being publicly humiliated would fight against a claim this weak.

He could have tried to completely kill the franchise like the Pohlads. John Fisher seems like a slight step above if we're being honest.

IDK. They are the only owenership group that I know of that literally agreed to murder their franchise for financial gain.

I don't know what to tell other than you're just wrong. The front office sucks, but signing minor league free agents to supplement the ****** roster they built is not why. You finally got to the correct point at the end of the paragraph. They suck, and need to sign ****** veterans like Arcia because they suck, not the other way around. Lee didn't hit for **** in '25 because he was afraid Arcia would steal his job next season.

If the team were any good, Bader would have been a 4th OF. Unfortunately the team sucked and his role was heightened. The front office didn't plan on Julien and Miranda sucking so much, and they didn't plan on Lewis, Wallner, Martin, Lee et al getting hurt and missing time. But they obviously knew it was possible, and they knew Keirsey sucked, so the obvious need for another OF was perfectly met by acquiring Bader. And I will repeat that any complaining about it was done by people that don't know ball. I don't know who you're accusing of having billed Bader as a late inning replacement. No veteran acquisition is ever billed as a late inning defensive replacement. That's playoff roster talk, not regular season roster talk. Gallo was removed from the regular roster in late 2023, hence proving your own point wrong. So, I don't know why people keep pointing at him. As for Margot...the backup was Keirsey. So, in hindsight I understand why Rocco was playing him (but not pinch-hitting, although I'm happy he did because we saw an MLB record 🥲). Yes, Arcia is potentially going to spend a fair amount of time on the roster. But it's because this team sucks and he's the next best player on the roster, not because this team has a hard-on for bad veterans.

That's all fine. I'm perfectly content with a strategy of signing a batch of $0.5 - 1.5 million bonuses to prospects, but the headline clearly implies a $3-5 million prospect signing that would immediately slot into the top 20 prospects. Terrible, dishonest headline.

I'm sorry you hated cheap veterans that contributed 5 WAR of contribution because the rest of the team sucked. I would suggest you worry more about the broader team sucking than the supplementary players that were added, like all teams do. This is how so many people looked absolutely ridiculous last year when they signed Bader. Hating on his signing was the sign someone doesn't understand baseball in the least. Is Arcia exciting? No. But he's a minor league signing and he isn't supposed to be. Getting bent out of shape because of this signing is like getting mad at a stop sign.

"Twins Expected to Land Top International Prospect in January" "Merlo is ranked by MLB Pipeline as the 34th-best prospect in the 2026 class." Come on man. I know we live in a post-truth world now, but this is egregious enough of a stretch to be called a lie.

Sorry that you've completely misdirected your anger at the terrible team towards the cheaper, competent, if unexciting veterans instead of the actual problems.

It was only as much a guarantee as far as Miranda and Julien being both guaranteed to suck. A lot of people were also really convinced that Mike Ford was a guarantee to make the team to "block" some nebulous prospect. And as far as Arcia making the team, yeah, he very well might. Because this organization sucks. But people are convinced he's going to block a prospect that isn't even ready for the major leagues. And those people look ridiculous. My new standard is no deal "worked out well" if it doesn't result in a World Series victory. Why actually look at the deal itself when we have a clear barometer? Every single free agent signing since 1991 has been terrible because it hasn't resulted in a world series. Nay, every single roster move has been terrible since 1991. Drafting Joe Mauer? Terrible. Extending Mauer? Terrible. Trading for Pablo Lopez? So far, so bad. Etc, etc.

They quite literally did though. It's just that the team was far worse than many people thought. To get that production, about 5 WAR, for what came in under $10 million combined is quite good work from the front office if we're being honest, which many people here have trouble with. And that's not even counting the prospects that came back in return; Mendez, Horn, Roden (kind of), and Villoria. The signing of these three players was an undeniable success for the front office. That is, unless you just want to complain for the sake of complaining.

Fair enough. But Ty France is still a bad example because there was clearly no one better than him. Ryan Fitzgerald is actually a better comparison. He signed a minor league contract with the Twins, and was only called up when there was no one left. They sign a bunch of players to minor league contracts, and most of them don't make the team. Getting stressed about this specific move is incredibly foolish. But this team sucks so I get why everyone's upset.

If you think the Ty France contract is why the 2025 Twins sucked or even a bad deal, and not one of many examples of a low risk veteran contract working out, then I think you should probably just refrain from commenting further. Did Ty France make the bad team worse? Or are you just complaining for the sake of complaining? Do you want to complain about Harrison Bader next? Or Danny Coulombe?

Lol. This team blows.

MLB is different. Players take years to develop and, therefore, so do teams. Not every team should be competing every year. For example, it's entirely stupid for the Twins to pretend as if they're going to compete in 2026 and everyone knows it.

Completely arbitrary measure you've picked to prove your point. Check the average salary rank of Finale participants and you'll find your point disappears.

Status quo is still very owner friendly. 6 mlb seasons of cost control on every single player is a big hole to start in for the mlbpa.