I'm not the biggest WAR guy, but Santana was on a 5 WAR pace in 14 and hit well in AAA in 15. I would agree that he probably ends up as nothing, but I would give him another shot. Speed, cannon arm, switch hitter, and some potential as a fielder.
If Dozier doesn't leave, why not just roll with him, Polanco and Sano. What are you trying to upgrade? For Santana, I just don't like giving up on tools, especially pre-arb, who have also flashed some bat, even if it is babip fueled.
Someone of lesser value than them, more org filler. Other kind of guy I would target is players who had prospect pedigree but have floundered over multiple seasons in the majors. And I wouldn't be in a hurry to dump Danny Santana like others I'm not opposed to thinking of a bigger trade, just kind of a strange strategy to trade a good player (Dozier) for prospects and then turn around and trade different prospects to fill a hole created by Doziers departure.
I'm no fun, but I think this type of scenario sounds a lot better in theory and falls apart when you start to consider the type of players that are available and can be had for 1-2 B/B- prospects. Short answer, there are not many, and teams that are actually competing would be more motivated to acquire them. I would be more interested in acquiring blocked guys and trying to catch something and keeping my arms.
Adam Walker wasn't worth anything as an add on to a trade at any point. Even the new regime will realize this. I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to adding 1-2 to a veteran for increased return, but there is a reason that type of trade is extremely rare.
What kind of return do you get in a trade? I don't think any of them have that much value. Maybe as a second piece in a trade for a guy like Dozier, so would only be plugging a hole for a couple of years when the team isn't in the best position to contend.
2 is still closed, correct. It's up to the new regime to improve 1 and 3. That's the model for mid market teams. They aren't exactly positioned to sign elite fa bats either.
And both were a mistake because better hitters were available right after. It seems generally that drafting hitters high and trying to hit on pitchers through other means is the best strategy. Obviously they shouldn't force it if no good bats are available. One reason I'm still predicting Kendall right now, especially if he improves his k rate.
I like the Joe Souchery joke. He assumed we signed the wrong Nishioka. The other great story is from Tom Kelly that first spring training. Two days in, in a casual conversation with Dark Star, he says "Well, the new Japanese guy can't play."
Not trading Perkins in 13 or especially 14 was by far the worst example of trade mismanagement. They shouldn't have extended Hughes, but people vastly overrate the return they could have gotten for Suzuki and especially Willingham.
Agree. That's why I said "all pitchers" and not "all prospects". With all the talk about injury prevention, by far the best indicator of future injury in a pitcher is previous injury. The is heightened risk for someone like De Leon who has had injury concerns in recent seasons. Shoulders are especially dicey. De Leon is still an acceptable primary piece, but that enhanced risk would make me want more valuable additional pieces.
I think the durability question is why the Twins are right to hold out for the right package. I suppose the counter is that durability is the reason he's even available.
I'm pretty meh about the Rock and Roll HOF, but Pearl Jam is by far my all time favorite band and there's not a close second. A fusion of The Who and Grateful Dead with some other great characteristics sprinkled in. The came around at the perfect age for me, I don't have the capacity to rationally debate this.
I'm generally with you on this. I think they can make it work with some quantity, but I don't fault the Twins for holding out. This is my own thought (not in response to you), but there is still a small chance the Twins could even compete in the Central in 2017. While not likely, there is a enough variance in the young guys that if things click they could surprise a little. That enters in the equation as well and doesn't demand that the Twins trade him for less than they think Dozier is worth.