I was speaking generally to the crowd of "don't legislate morality" folks, my apologies if that wasn't clear and if it came off poorly. In fact, I was highlighting that you made the rare step of outlining your real opposition (religion), which is a good point. What gets lost in the other phrasing is that many of our laws are moral pronouncements. If we didn't legislate morality, we wouldn't have laws against theft, rape, and murder. What makes your point a good one is that these moral pronouncements transcend religion and become social contract. But they are still legislated morality. Where things get sticky is specific religious ideas, which you are right to push to debate and not just automatically codify. I just bristle at the buzzy phrase of "don't legislate morality" because I can't imagine anyone truly wanting that. (My apologies again though, sometimes my zeal gets in the way of my better qualities, I'll continue to try and clean that up)