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  1. TheLeviathan
    Couldn't some gun nut flip that argument around? Gun nut: Brocks, stop telling people how many guns they can have Brock: You can't have that many guns Or perhaps: Dumb anti-vaccination person: Brock, stop telling me what to inject in my children Brock: Stop not injecting your child We all do this, it's just what we choose to do it about that changes. The act, the thinking, the imposition is still the same.
  2. TheLeviathan
    Yeah, I totally misread your post. So the Town Hall had the opposite effect? Doh.....
  3. TheLeviathan
    And most of us would impose laws that force people to give medical care to their children. Or vaccinate them for the good of others. Or impose laws that restrict ownership of firearms. We all seek to impose for what we deem is the greater good. Asking religious people to stop doing it is hypocrisy. (And they ask the left to do it too. Which makes them hypocrites also)
  4. TheLeviathan
    Maybe that town hall had an effect? That would be encouraging.
  5. TheLeviathan
    Well, yes, abolishing slavery was an imposition. We forced the south to give up slavery. That's what an imposition is. But impositions can be a good thing! And we all want to impose our values more generally. There are a host of issues I'm sure you support that would directly alter the lives of other people but you seek to impose them anyway because you feel the greater good is served for it. Campaign financing, income equality, criminal justice reforms, reducing gun proliferation, etc. All of these things would force differences on others that disagree with you, but you seek to impose them anyway. All of us do.
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    Religious people vote and act within the democracy to impose their beliefs just as you do. You (and me and everyone else) wish to impose all sorts of values on the country, be it abortion rights or same sex marriage or whatever. The only difference is where we derive our values. The key isn't to get religious people to stop imposing their values but to help change their values. Best way to do that is with discussion and the exchange of ideas. Not telling people they "can't" or "shouldn't" impose their values. We all do that. Lecturing them on that is just engaging in hypocrisy. Best part is we have hundreds of years of evidence that changing their ideas can and does work, even if it's hard and slow.
  7. TheLeviathan
    If the outrage at him keeps up he may not have any other choice but to leave.....
  8. TheLeviathan
    Aren't you, by voting Democrat, also attempting to disregard the values of Republicans? Or hoping to impose your viewpoint on the country and, thus, on them? Isn't every vote or political action we support a self-serving one at some level? I could go on and on. You disagree with what they want to achieve, but I would suggest that your motivations (and mine and pretty much everyone else) is really not all that different.
  9. TheLeviathan
    An interesting read right here.
  10. TheLeviathan
    Well, sure, but many of the things people believe in politics stem from what they believe morally, which leads directly to religion. And separation of church and state has very little to do with what your average citizen wants from an ethical/legal/policy point of view. And is what you're asking for really fair? I get how we want everyone to just believe their own thing and not impose that on others, but at the end of the day....how is anyone different on this? Don't we all want to impose/push our beliefs/values to some degree? To push our values forward? The only difference, to me, seems to be the source of those values, not so much the actions themselves.
  11. TheLeviathan
    I don't disagree with any of that, but I wonder how much people really understand about other western nations. We see some left-leaning policies and, I think wrongly, assume that socially they are similarly positioned. That isn't really true. Or, at least, there is a wide variance on issues. Religion is still a prominent part of the lives of most people, so I think expecting a complete separation from politics is a bit unfair. On the plus side, we're trending towards it being a less prominent institution, so that may take some teeth out of these things over time.
  12. TheLeviathan
    Hey, how about Shepard Smith on Fox News letting him have it? That's kind of unexpected.
  13. TheLeviathan
    I sure hope he can approximate his production. And if he's going to have the Dozier trademarked 2-3 month stretch of being a pumpkin at the plate, I sure as hell hope he picks August and September this year.
  14. TheLeviathan
    I don't think there is a Gibson love-fest, just the acceptance of reality. As long as he's healthy, he's not in danger of losing his spot. At least not for a few months.
  15. TheLeviathan
    Taildragger took most of what I was going to say, but I'm moving Lavine because he and Wiggins don't co-exist well at all. Butler and Wiggins could be dynamic, however.
  16. TheLeviathan
    I agree, I just hear that sort of thing thrown around and it doesn't always make a lot of sense to me relative to the rest of the world.
  17. TheLeviathan
    While I agree, we're not really alone in that. In fact, how many countries are there that don't have something like this happening on a broad level? Those are some deep roots to shake off.
  18. TheLeviathan
    I think you'd find that they will find a way to tear that person down too. Just my opinion.
  19. TheLeviathan
    I think it's relevant. Especially to anyone that thinks Bernie would've had even a prayer of passing one bit of legislation he proposed. But I think Hosken has a point....the Dems sort of did what the Republicans are doing now: bumble their way through an enormous (and critical) piece of legislation.
  20. TheLeviathan
    Does it really matter? There will always be something to demonize whether it's Schumer or Pelosi or Warren.
  21. TheLeviathan
    My high school days are far behind me as well, but that NFL minimum salary sure looks tasty....
  22. TheLeviathan
    Well now the only question is can we make this thread beat Dave's fake Dozier predictions.....
  23. TheLeviathan
    Luis Castillo's filter was brilliant. Burl Ives was a favorite of mine as well. But TROLPO? Damn I loved me some TROLPO. The wiki site, short lived as it was, also contained some absolute brilliance.
  24. TheLeviathan
    I think the truth is that we'll have to trade Wiggins or Lavine this offseason. But Thibs seems to LOVE Lavine, so I'm not sure how this works out. Maybe we find a way to make that Butler deal happen after all?
  25. TheLeviathan
    Oooh, thanks for this!
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