I appreciate your willingness to find common ground. As I said, I see it as a form of crowdsourcing. In statistical terms it would be a biased sample, albeit a bias toward people who are willing to put their money where their mouth is. But it also contains a bias against the most knowledgeable baseball people, since those inside the game are forbidden to gamble on it. Published odds are... a starting point for some kinds of discussions, I suppose. They quantify conventional wisdom, for both good and ill. quote: I tried on a more than one occasion to have someone explain in baseball terms how this team is anywhere near the same level as the other playoff teams I don't see this roster as being any closer to the top teams than you do. If they were to nose out Cleveland for the AL Central, they'd be underdogs to whomever they faced, including whichever Wild Card team emerged. However, I do think you undervalue getting a seat at the post-season table. There's direct money for the franchise just by being there, plus the goodwill and other intangibles toward the next season's ticket sales. And the short-series phenomenon allows for occasional unexpected outcomes. For me, and apparently Judd, the choice becomes clear-cut only if we are buried in the Central standings and become sellers; if we're still at the fringes of competing with Cleveland in late July then I don't think the decisions are clear-cut at all - except that nothing would probably make me go all-in to the extent of draining the prospect pipeline in favor of established veterans for a pennant push.