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  1. Dave Overlund
    To me, you have to plant the seeds to make the money. The way you lay it out, their revenue will remain flat. By investing more in the team, and putting a real title contender on the field, you ignite a fan base. I am a huge Twins fan in large part because I was nine when they won the World Series. I was hooked and have stuck around through two truly awful decades (90s and 2010s) because I remember that feeling. If they invested more money on the team and take a short term loss in the process, you increase attendance. You increase jersey sales. Concession sales. Sponsorships. TV broadcast deals. All the things that come with having a very popular team. Sure, it might "hurt" them for a year or two, but the return would be massive if they broke through and won the whole thing. The other thing I think is relevant is the fact that sports are entertainment. Part of the deal is providing the fans a product that they want to consume. We don't care how many millions (or billions) of dollars in profit the owner makes, I want to know why I should spend $100-200 per game to take my family to the ballpark. Hint: It isn't to watch Homer Bailey pitch.
  2. Dave Overlund
    How about the Tigers? From ESPN: "I think I proved that," Ilitch said when asked about his willingness to open the purse strings. "I've been in baseball for a lot of years. I didn't care about spending money. They get the players, and I spend, and I don't worry about it because they have good judgment." His message to Avila this winter? "I don't care about the money," he said. "I want the best players." In fact, Ilitch admitted he'd be open to crossing the luxury tax threshold if the payroll continued to escalate and the market required such a commitment. "Well, I'm supposed to be a good boy and not go over it, but again, if I'm gonna get certain players that can help us a lot, I'm going to go over it," he said before conceding this strategy was frowned upon. "Oops, I shouldn't have said that."
  3. Dave Overlund
    Who would you rather have? Gibson/Perez or Hill/Bailey? Is this even a slight upgrade when you consider Hill’s inability to stay on the field?
  4. Dave Overlund
    We could have all saved ourselves a lot of frustration if we would have just accepted that these were the type of additions they were going to make. I fell for it, too. The more things change (FO), the more they stay the same (ownership).
  5. Dave Overlund
    I’m not a fan of Price at this point, but I also disagree with the returns being “iffy” for Boston. They won the World Series in 2018 thanks in large part to Price. That’s the whole point of any signing right? To win the World Series?
  6. Dave Overlund
    Seattle and Denver have the legalization correlation I guess (shrugs). Atlanta and Toronto 1992 World Series (hey I’m trying haha).
  7. Dave Overlund
    I think the difference is that the Phillies tried to buy a team without a core group of players. The Twins have a solid core of players and just need a few pieces to be a real contender. I think most would agree that buying a team isn’t a winning strategy. You have to grow a core of players and supplement them with free agents and trades when the time is right.
  8. Dave Overlund
    I think that is a fair question. However, I personally don’t think that Matt Morin move was the only thing that happened and gave Berrios this impression. Maybe that was the one that set him off for whatever reason, but I doubt that would be the only example he would give if you could ask him to speak honestly. I think the fan base has had the same impression for a long time, along with some media members. The concern is if the players feel that way as well. It could be the reason Berrios, Buxton and Rosario have been reluctant to sign extensions here, and the reason that seemingly no free agent wanted to come here.
  9. Dave Overlund
    I’ve said this elsewhere but the Twins might be the 2019 Indians, and the White Sox the 2019 Twins. One team thinking they could stand pat (or even subtract guys) and coast to a division title, the other team coming seemingly from out of nowhere to make a run at the division. I think the Twins lack of moves this season is borderline arrogant, and that we as fans have to take the Sox seriously. We’ve never experienced it here, but the type of offseason the White Sox are having sends the roster a message about ownerships expectations for success. If you are a veteran with Minnesota, and you see the team sitting on its hands, what message does that send? Jose Berrios himself said it last year on Twitter, this team only cares about making money. I’m guessing he’s not the only one in the clubhouse that thinks that.
  10. Dave Overlund
    I agree with your post. Chemistry is something that only strikes once in a while, and last years team had it. It’s really hard for me to believe that lightning is going to strike twice in 2020.
  11. Dave Overlund
    The Twins are last years Cleveland team, thinking that they can just coast to a division title without addressing glaring needs in the off-season. The White Sox might just be last year’s Twins.
  12. Dave Overlund
    Probably pressed feeling like they needed to hit ten home runs to win
  13. Dave Overlund
    It’s actually pretty simple. If the Twins have a hypothetical budget of $135 million per season, and this year they are $35 million under budget, they can fit Ryu in for $25 million. In years three and four they will have presumably extended some guys and increased the payroll, so having Ryu at a reduced rate would help them with meeting their budget. Am I missing something?
  14. Dave Overlund
    Someone mentioned it in the replies to Wolfson's tweet, and it just makes too much sense not to repeat it here. Why not front-load the contract so the fourth year hardly matters? Give him $25m/$25m/$15m/15m or something.
  15. Dave Overlund
    Ken Rosenthal said on Twitter this morning (I can't figure out how to embed on here): "Expectation within the industry is Ryu will exceed Bumgarner's $17m aav in deal of at least four years. Two industry people with knowledge of starting pitching market predict minimum 4 years/$80 million. Teams still in need of starter include Blue Jays, Angels, Twins." Darren Wolfson via Twitter: "Hear that the MNTwins aren't sure yet if 4-year offer makes sense. His injury history and age suggest it doesn't. But, realistically, the only chance you have to make him think about coming to Minnesota is to go there. Personally, I'd keep exploring the trade market." Sigh.
  16. Dave Overlund
    Probably kept reading about how no one wants to play here!
  17. Dave Overlund
    I see your point, which is well made, but I disagree. If our prospect pipeline is as strong as they say it is, you don't need to resign all of the players you mentioned. Further, I would hope that we aren't avoiding signing an impact pitcher so that we can save up some money for Tyler freaking Duffey. One of the major problems I have as a lifelong Twins fan is this notion that we have to protect the future. I always hear a quote attributed to Torii Hunter (but have never been able to find the actual quote) where he (supposedly) said: "In Minnesota its always wait until next year, but next year never comes." Even the Yankees understand how it is done. You grow your core of players, then supplement them with trades and impact free agents. Rinse, repeat.
  18. Dave Overlund
    "Look, I know most Minnesotans hate this shorthand but I needed it for the wordplay so please let it slide. As much as I love Minneapolis, I recognize that we're not the most appealing destination for high-profile free agents and their families." In my opinion, it's not the city and state, it's the ownership and the way the franchise is run. Would you want to play for a team that tries to do things on a shoestring budget, or a team that is willing to pay for a real contender. Maybe Wheeler's girlfriend truly dragged him to Philly (although I would imagine it was that extra $18 million that was the real reason), but I am guessing their contract to Bryce Harper and the message ownership puts out there that the goal is to win the World Series didn't hurt either. If a player can go anywhere in the league, I would imagine two things are most important: money, and a commitment to winning. I really doubt these guys care about where they will spend essentially three months out of the year when you factor in all the road trips.
  19. Dave Overlund
    Was about to type something similar. Are we really as deep at OF as we think we are? What about when Buxton misses his annual 50-80 games? We are in a position, supposedly, to add payroll. Why would we give up a known quantity in the prime of his career (and prospects!) for a reclamation project or young pitcher that -might- be good, when we could just sign a Bumgarner or Ryu? Maybe we regret the fourth and fifth years of a Bumgarner contract, but if there is a WS title in the first three years, who cares?
  20. Dave Overlund
    Did anyone else find this interesting? Latest on free agent LHP Hyun-Jin Ryu. He said there's no truth to report coming out of Minnesota that he wants to stay on the West Coast. So, why is a report like this originating here in Minnesota and not with someone associated with Ryu? Who originated this report and for what purpose? This is a new wrinkle this season, that it's not "budget constraints" causing the team's inactivity, but suddenly no one wants to play in Minnesota. I don't want to hear about market size, players like Yasmani Grandal will sign with the Brewers if the money is right. Is it the climate? Players don't need to live hear year-round to play for the Twins, and summers here are just as good if not better than New York or Boston.
  21. Dave Overlund
    Spend more money-->win more games-->get fans more excited and breed more loyalty-->sell more tickets/merchandise-->make more money On top of that, even if the Pohlads somehow "lost" $100 million dollars in 2020, they could sell whenever they wanted and walk away with over a BILLION in profit.
  22. Dave Overlund
    Honestly, what does it matter how excited people were before 2018? The signings resulted in the team having a miserable season, multiple players getting traded for pennies on the dollar and the manager getting fired.
  23. Dave Overlund
    I would also like to add that blogging for Twins Daily doesn't make you any more credible than me, and the way that you and Nick Nelson tend to talk down to other Twins fans for their opinions is getting a little old. And to your previous point, the team's President and Ownership has been the same for quite some time and have been preaching the same small-market BS since I was a kid. The front office doesn't hold unilateral power over decisions like payroll. If you want to tell me that the front office has done well with the limited resources they have been given from ownership, I'll listen. But challenging my "credibility" because you disagree with me will just make me stop visiting this website.
  24. Dave Overlund
    Oh, you must mean like the trade deadline last year? Or the stellar free agent class of 2018 on the heels of a playoff appearance?
  25. Dave Overlund
    The answer is money, right?
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