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  1. Which is fine and dandy except that it's unlikely the Twins will get Price without giving up one of Sano and Buxton. At the end of the day, you're looking at a Myers/Shields situation. In the short term, giving up 2.5 wins and $500k for 4.5 wins and $12m. In the long term, you could be looking at giving up as many as 20 wins for Myers' arb seasons for ~9 wins in Shields. A good idea if you're making a push for the playoffs. A historically awful idea if you're not even an 80 win team yet. One key component of the Myers/Shields trade that many seem to ignore is that Santana pitched out of his goddamned mind and the Royals still missed the playoffs. Now Santana is gone and the Royals look worse on paper than they did in 2013. They gave up six years of what looks to be an incredibly valuable player for a guy who didn't get them to the playoffs because they had too many hurdles to overcome, too many questions on the roster, to compete in 2013.
  2. Fair enough. I don't think we're really disagreeing here. My only sticking point is timing. If the 2014 Twins win 85 games, then it's time to start exploring trade options and prospect trades. At 85 wins, they'll have several cheap players contributing on the roster, making some of those prospects expendable.
  3. The bolded is the difference between those 2007 Tigers and the 2013 Twins. It also doesn't hurt that Ilitch pulled the trigger and unexpectedly gave Dombrowski a blank check for half a decade. That changes everything about how the Tigers needed to operate in the past 5-6 years.
  4. I don't disagree that the Twins haven't been as aggressive as they should during their better seasons. What I liked about the post is the implication that subtracting cheap "wins" for a few additional expensive "wins" doesn't make much sense when your team is probably going to struggle to cross the 80 win threshold. If you're a 90 win team looking to shoot for a 95 win season, these moves make more sense. When you're a 66 win team looking to cross into the realm of respectability, it makes far less sense to trade cheap seasons and wins for a couple of essentially pointless expensive wins in the short-term. If we knew which prospects would provide cheap wins and which would flounder, then this wouldn't be a conversation... On the other hand, no GM would trade for those floundering prospects, either. But when your team needs as many cheap wins as possible just to get to the .500 mark, you want all those prospects, knowing some will fail while others will succeed.
  5. This might be my favorite post in the history of Twins Daily. Bloody good job.
  6. If a tyrannical man were to take over the Twins and alienate coaches and staff enough to drive them all away while covering his own ass by blaming his subordinates, I'd certainly hope Minneapolis papers would write about it.
  7. The Milton Bradley deal made sense. It was swapping bad contracts. I still don't see a problem with it. Almost everything else the guy did was completely insane.
  8. Why is everyone so confident that Mauer would be a better third baseman than Miguel Sano? The only dig against Sano is his (potential) size. His athleticism has never been in question; he's been playing the position for years and is in his early 20s. On the other hand, Mauer is in his early 30s and has zero innings at the position and previous to 2012, zero innings any ANY position other than catcher.
  9. Every report I've seen on Sano in the past 12 months has talked about improvement on defense and the likelihood that he'll stay at third, at least for awhile. By the time Sano proves he can't play third, Mauer will probably be too old for the position anyway. So, at the end of the day, we're still talking about 3-4 months, tops. A non-issue. Besides, there's no reason to think Mauer would be better defensively than Plouffe, particularly in his first year or two. Trevor has been an infielder his entire life. Mauer has exactly zero career innings at third base.
  10. Why would the Twins spend so much time and effort jerking around their best player for what will probably amount to three, maybe four months at third base? The ship has sailed on Mauer at third.
  11. No, it doesn't. Mediocre: of only ordinary or moderate quality; neither good nor bad; barely adequate. If you want to talk mediocre, let's talk Blue Jays. Since 1995, they have won less than 70 games once and have never won 90 games. The very definition of mediocre. Seriously. You're adding 2011-2013? This conversation started by talking about the 1999-2001 teams and how they developed prospects. Between 2002-2006 (you know, immediately following the 2001 breakout season), the Twins had four 90 win seasons in five years. Not mediocre.
  12. A year or two ago, sure. But not in 2014. What's the point of moving Mauer to third when Sano has improved drastically and looks to be in Minnesota by mid season?
  13. Division titles, multiple 90 win seasons, and reaching the playoffs are not mediocrity. Those teams may not have been as good as you wanted them to be but under no definition of the word were they "mediocre".
  14. No way is Gio a comp for Anderson. Gio was coming off consecutive 200 inning seasons when he was traded.
  15. The Tigers would still probably edge out the Twins in the division with Price. And at that point, what have you done? You've gone and pulled a Dayton Moore... Given up some top pieces of your farm to field a second place (or in Moore's case, third place) team.
  16. What data have you seen that suggests speed guys who don't have other plus tools age well? Ellsbury's main threat are his legs. His power isn't particularly good. His discipline isn't particularly good. His hit tool isn't particularly good. He had ~20 infield hits last season. Once his legs are gone and he has to rely on his other tools (none of which are particularly good), what makes you think he'll still be a good player?
  17. Why do people think Ryan doesn't value strikeouts? He drafted Scott Baker, Matt Garza, Johan Santana, and his bullpens have always done a solid job of striking out batters. The deficiency has been money and talent, not an overwhelming desire for contact pitchers. He has drafted poorly at times (meaning the Twins have the honor of throwing #6 starters in the rotation for the past several years) and he either didn't have the money or refused to spend it to pick up strikeout pitchers. I don't think there's ever been a question that he prefers guys who can miss bats.
  18. I see your point but Perkins is supposed to throw 60 innings a season. Anderson is supposed to throw 200. A lot could happen in those missing 440 innings. Dead arm and fatigue are issues that face starters as a year wears on.
  19. I'd be down with Berrios and Santana, though I think more value might be found by keeping May around for a bit. I don't think his value is terribly high right now... Though if another GM is interested, trade 'im.
  20. I'm not against the Twins picking up more players, I'm just not sure who they should pick up and I'd prefer it to be shorter-term than Matt Garza. I'd love for them to be playing in the 3 year, $20-25m range but given the positional talent available this offseason and the Twins difficulty in deciding who stays and who goes, I'm not sure if there's really anyone for them to pursue right now. I was against the Salty signing but honestly, he was probably the best option out there in that range... I just hate the idea of paying that guy based on a .372 BABIP season.
  21. Yeah, I don't get why he's on the 40 man. I understand the desire to move pitching for pitching on the 40 man but, as you said, Eric Fryer.
  22. Yeah... This isn't true at all. Hendriks' stat line looked okay in AA/AAA, for sure... But not stellar. And then you look at his peripherals and say "ugh". He looked like he had real potential in 2011, striking out 8.0 per nine in AA. But then he floundered a bit in AAA, missing far too few bats. Guys who don't miss bats in the minor leagues are not automatically "serviceable starters" in MLB, no matter how few runs they allow. In fact, most of Hendriks' peripherals outside of ERA point to him floundering in a MLB rotation. I don't know how one would even begin comparing Meyer to Hendriks past "they throw with the same hand". It's disappointing that Hendriks was so bad in Minnesota. But that's what happens to guys with marginal stuff and why you should look past ERA (in most cases, I ignore it in a MiLB player) and try to gauge what stuff the pitcher has in his arsenal. And the higher Hendriks went, the more apparent it was that he didn't really have good stuff. I still think that Liam has a shot to be successful on a MLB roster and I'm not sold on the Twins giving up on him quite yet but given their current roster, somebody had to go. I'm not sure it should have been Hendriks but I'm not sure it shouldn't be, either.
  23. By the time Buxton and Sano are due large raises, Joe Mauer's contract comes off the books. That's why incremental signings are a good idea. You constantly have guys coming off the books, freeing up money to sign more players.
  24. I truncated the rest. Really interesting stuff there, jokin. I bumped it to 6'1" because my point wasn't only about height. It was about build and frame. Every guy I listed was 200 lbs. or under. For an example, Mickey Mantle... He was a pretty solid guy, right? 6'0", 195 lbs. Justin Morneau is a big guy but he's pretty skinny compared to a guy like Albert Pujols, right? Well, he's 6'4", 215 lbs. I brought up Jimmie Foxx's weight for a reason. Guys weren't only an inch or two shorter back then, they were also at least 15-20 lbs lighter.
  25. Half a minute? Really? I haven't seen a page load longer than five seconds in the past two weeks. Anybody else?
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