Brock Beauchamp
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Yes, and I hope the Twins do the same at some point in the next 2-3 seasons. I'm not against trading prospects at all, I'm just not willing to give up on Lewis right this moment, as I think his stock is going to skyrocket in the near future. If you're bullish on a prospect, you don't trade him in the present. You either wait for his value to rise and get more in return for him or you keep him and reap the rewards of having a good player. -
I'll also let it drop but it's not that it's impossible to get good players, it's just a lot harder when you don't have a "gimme" pick at the top and then the ability to draft intelligently down the board. You only have the option to draft intelligently down the board and the hit rate between good and bad teams on those picks is a pretty small gap (but that gap makes all the difference in the world when you nail the pick on a guy down the board every other draft or so).
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Personally, I'm not terribly concerned about Odorizzi's BABIP. Will it raise this season? Almost certainly. But we're talking about a guy who fought injury issues most of the season and saw his home run rate spike... but his walk rate also spiked. That tells me there's a good chance he lost his feel for the zone due to nagging injury, a guy who might be having trouble finishing his delivery and therefore leaving an extreme number of balls up in the zone. Even if the BABIP jumps back up, as it probably will, a healthy Odorizzi should be able to counter that with a normalized walk and home run rate.
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Like all other teams, the Twins almost certainly had a BPA on their board. You trust your scouts and analytics and take the guy they tell you to take. Look at Houston. Their highest-drafted starting pitcher was taken in the supplemental round. If you draft well, you draft well. And I think a big part of that is always taking the BPA. After all, Houston was pretty widely criticized for their Correa pick, yet they managed to nail a pretty good starter in the supplemental round as well. That seemed to turn out okay because the Houston front office was smarter than a bunch of analysts and forum dweebs.
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I'm not sure what you're getting at here... doesn't pretty much every MLB front office agree that drafting for need is a terrible idea? Some practice it better than others, but I've never heard a front office stray from that line of thinking publicly. If the Twins liked Lewis best, they should have drafted Lewis. It's that simple, really. Worry about filling other positions further down the draft because, chances are, you'll think a pitcher is the BPA somewhere in your first 2-3 picks. And the Twins did just that.
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I'm also expecting a four, will be very happy if he bounces back to being a decent three.
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Except the original post made no clarification if ERA or FIP was being used to say "the same". So let's say both are the same. That means Odorizzi will again post a low 4s ERA, making him much better than everyone except Berrios and Santana.
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Ah, I see, you're saying that his FIP will be the same. Got it. I disagree on that front but under that definition, Odorizzi is not much of an upgrade.
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Considering the drop off after Santana and Berrios, it should be.
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I see your point and I don't think it's a big issue. I guess you could summarize my point more succinctly this way: With three better shortstop prospects in the system, two "chasing" Palacios, it makes sense to move him and clear the way for guys you more regard more highly. On that note, how weird is it to talk about shortstop as a position of strength? I've been a Twins fan a little over 30 years and it hasn't happened during that time.
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Izzy Odo Jackey, esquire.
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Also, we should note that it's going to become increasingly difficult to keep all those SS prospects at the correct level for their development while also staying at short. Palacios finished the season in Ft Myers but needs more time there. Lewis, if all goes according to plan, will likely end 2018 in Ft Myers. Javier is a wild card, as he has hit well and is now at the age where promotions can come fast and furious. In front of all of them, you have Gordon in Rochester and Polanco in Minnesota. And you don't want to move a guy off short if at all possible. It made sense to give up a guy like Palacios who appears to be on an upward trajectory because you don't want to run into the issue of deciding to move either move Palacios to second or stunt Lewis' advancement through the system.
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Yeah, any gains from the Twins OF will be minimal. He might gain a little from improved corner play but given Rosario's bizarre defensive regression, hard to say. On the upside, Odorizzi had injury issues last season and he starting pitching up in the zone to an even more extreme degree. Minus back problems and adding a refinement of his approach by a new coaching staff and front office, it's not hard to see a potential rebound in there. That doesn't mean it will happen, though. It's not as if the Rays org is full of morons, but it's easy for one guy to lose his approach and mess up in a season before the problem gets fixed.
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Interesting. BP has him as a plus defender.
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Ditto. I’ve always read the question is his bat, not his glove.
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The past 4-5 days are where the rubber meets the road for the front office. I actually laughed at the Sanchez signing but quite liked the Odorizzi signing; not because I think he's great but if you give up your fourth-best SS prospect in the low minors for what should be a competent starting pitcher, that's a good deal. So, I'm underwhelmed. Not super unhappy but definitely underwhelmed. Now it's up to the front office to show they're smarter than me. They made their decisions, now we wait to see how it all plays out.
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Yes and no. The input is results but they use those results to estimate an entirely different number.
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I wanted something better than Odorizzi but straight up for Palacios? lol yes every day
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I just threw up in my mouth.
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I'll go but only to day games and will only sit in specific parts of the stadium where I'm either close to a heat source or in the sun.
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Yeah, it's a bad idea to even look at the April schedule and try to sort a rotation when your favorite team plays outdoors in Minneapolis.
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Right, I forgot that Romero barely touched 125 IP last season. Good point.
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Considering how many pitchers have AAA experience in front of him, I don't see why the Twins would even consider promoting him. Fernando Romero is a good, not great, prospect who has several capable pitchers (of varying degrees) in front of him in the organization. Why would you leapfrog that guy to the majors before he pitches a single inning of AAA ball?
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Never mind that calling up a legitimate prospect for Opening Day is kind of a bad idea. In that situation, you're secretly hoping the player will struggle and force a demotion so you get back that extra year of control. So where's the upside? If you give that player a month or two in AAA, get a better read on his ability, then you can promote him, let him struggle through issues, and gain an additional year of control. I don't give a rat's ass about Super Two status but that extra year of control is important, especially if the downside is losing three weeks at the front of that player's career.
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Someone drank a gallon of optimism coffee this morning.
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