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    How the Twins and Blue Jays Can Match Up on a Big Trade Again


    Ted Schwerzler

    The expectation this offseason has been that the Twins will be active on the trade market. Their needs are relatively few, and they have more than a few major-league assets to move. Calling up the Toronto Blue Jays worked before, and the teams' interests align again.

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    In July 2021, Derek Falvey contacted the Toronto Blue Jays to send Jose Berrios north. Talk of contract extensions for Berrios and Byron Buxton had run rampant, but Minnesota’s front office decided to cash in their starter instead. With not only Austin Martin, but also Simeon Woods Richardson, the return was substantial.

    Heading into 2024, the Blue Jays need a corner outfielder and a third baseman. Daulton Varsho is moving to center field, leaving George Springer in one of the corners. Max Kepler could play the opposite corner, and his defensive abilities would give them an excellent group on the grass (er, turf).

    Although Jorge Polanco hasn’t played much at third base, he did see innings there for Minnesota last season, and his ability to contribute as the designated hitter helps, too. Second base isn’t a huge need for the Blue Jays, with Cavan Biggio and Santiago Espinal rostered, but neither possesses the same offensive prowess that the Twins infielder brings.

    It doesn’t seem likely that the Blue Jays would be interested in compromising their major-league roster's competitive outlook in the short term. Bo Bichette is a superstar, Kevin Gausman was a Cy Young finalist, and the team took a massive, ultimately doomed swing to add Shohei Ohtani. Still, some pieces could be had, and Minnesota finding something usable for one or both of their veterans seems to add up. Here are a trio of trades that could work.

    For Polanco: Twins receive Alek Manoah and Connor Cooke
    In 2024, Polanco will play his age-30 season. He is under contract for $10.5 million and carries a $12-million team option in 2025. He has played shortstop (poorly) and second base (well) during his career, but transitioning to the hot corner with some runway to get reps wouldn’t be unrealistic. Polanco’s reactions and instincts may work well alongside Bichette, and the Blue Jays may find themselves putting together a solid offensive infield.

    In return, the Twins could take a major gamble. Manoah is a former All-Star, and finished third in the Cy Young voting two years ago. He hit rock bottom in a very public way last season, though, and Toronto sent him down to the Florida Complex League for a massive reset. A change of scenery and tweaks of pitching philosophy may help to resurrect his career. If things don’t change quickly, though, there is a chance Manoah never rebounds.

    Throwing in Cooke gives the Twins something of a safety net. He’s a former 10th-round pick who finds himself at the bottom of the Blue Jays top 30 prospects', according to MLB.com. Cooke has yet to throw 60 innings during a season of pro ball, and he’s transitioned to relief work. Toronto did push Cooke to Triple-A Buffalo last year, so he’s technically knocking on the door, but he owned just a 4.38 ERA at Double A and was giving up 1.1 HR/9. The strikeout numbers are the draw here, and he has done a relatively good job at limiting walks. There’s a chance Cooke works himself into a Griffin Jax-type role with added velocity, or he could be a quality middle reliever if the jump doesn’t happen.

    For Kepler: Twins receive Erik Swanson
    Kepler has been available, in varying degrees, for three years. The Twins shouldn’t be looking to ship him out for nothing, though, and at $10 million, he need not sustain all the success he found in the second half of 2023 to be a worthwhile bargain. A good defender with a 121 OPS+ last year, Kepler would provide John Schneider with a loaded outfield. Even if he doesn’t replicate the offensive output, his defense should be worth exploring the move for Toronto.

    As mentioned, it seems unlikely the Blue Jays want to cannibalize their big-league roster while looking to compete. Swanson is a player who should be available, though. The 30-year-old reliever is under team control for two more seasons, and has established himself as a legitimate medium- to high-leverage arm. Since his 2021 stint with the Seattle Mariners, Swanson owns a 2.60 ERA and 3.04 FIP. He puts up big strikeout numbers and controls the basepaths. Minnesota doesn’t need a closer or even a setup man, but something like this lengthens the bullpen, and that could be huge.

    The Twins front office hasn’t ever really paid for bullpen help outside of Addison Reed, and it seems unlikely that that pattern will break in a year where payroll is on their minds. Shedding Kepler’s dollars while getting a good bullpen arm makes a lot of sense.

    For Both Polanco and Kepler: Twins receive Addison Barger and Yosver Zulueta
    I would put very little chance on Polanco and Kepler going in the same package, but the Blue Jays may be inclined to add both. I considered adding Christian Vazquez to this scenario and having the return focus around Danny Jansen. Still, Minnesota could also use the prospects as part of a follow-up deal.

    Ricky Tiedemann is sure to be off the table. Orelvis Martinez isn’t an ideal fit and has a very high acquisition cost. Arjun Nimmala is too far away to help Minnesota now, and so is Brandon Barriera. Barger was a sixth-round pick in 2018 and played 2023 at Triple A. He posted just a .756 OPS, but is a season removed from a .933 OPS and 26 homers. Barger can play every infield position, but has spent most of his time on the left side.

    Pairing Barger’s ceiling with another near-ready prospect could lessen the blow of losing two players from the active roster. Zulueta was signed out of Cuba and features an upper-90s fastball. He will be 26 in 2024, but he threw 64 innings at Triple A last year. He doesn’t give up any homers, but walks too many batters. There are some Yennier Cano comparisons to be made here, but Minnesota would have a chance to mold him into a reliever with a myriad of possible outcomes.

    If Falvey pulls the trigger on moving an established player like Polanco or Kepler, he will want to find a way to replace their production almost immediately. Trading with a team focused on winning doesn’t always present that opportunity, but these three options seem to provide an avenue for something to work.

    Are any of these trades enough for the Blue Jays to act? Which of them would you be most excited about?

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    I’m surprised no one lifted up the national and provincial appeal of Edouard Julien for the Blue Jays.  He’d make some good material for Canada’s Team - not sure how many Québécois have made it to “les Show”.   Clearly a hero from the last World Baseball Cup. 
     

    Good to bring back Erik Swanson.  Straight outta Fargo - I know some of his hometown relatives.  Sell some extra tickets just for that family!

    Not sure whom else to receive back from Toronto.  Maybe some pieces to swap over to Seattle - real prize is Kirby or Gilbert!

    On 12/18/2023 at 6:35 PM, PatPfund said:

    I'm sorry, but why on earth would the Jays want Polanco? He was absolutely dreadful at 3B last year, the Jays certainly saw the same things I saw, because a couple of his worst plays happened against them in Game 1 of the playoffs (Polanco fields easy grounder, double clutches, then almost gets Kirilloff killed with an awful throw; later Polanco has a slow bouncer, runs right past it, and leaves it to Correa to come halfway across the infield to bail him out with the fantastic throw to get Bichette).

    Polanco needs to go to a team that needs a 2B or maybe wants to convert him to 1B. And that team is NOT the Jays.

     

    49 total chances for his career as a 3B. 27 in 2023

    2918 chances as an INFIELDER!

    The Blue Jays have a pretty good idea of what he can do on the dirt. 

    Fans on the other hand... still think they have to stand in a specific spot on the dirt. 😉

     

    4 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

    49 total chances for his career as a 3B. 27 in 2023

    2918 chances as an INFIELDER!

    The Blue Jays have a pretty good idea of what he can do on the dirt. 

    Fans on the other hand... still think they have to stand in a specific spot on the dirt. 😉

     

    Well this fan has played ball for almost 60 years including long stretches at all of the positions except pitcher, and giggles at anyone who thinks infield is the same except for where you stand (consider for instance that SS is considered the top of the defensive spectrum while 1B is the bottom).

    3B is a space where you can hide reduced foot-speed, but it requires fast reaction time and a strong accurate arm; the last two being areas Jorge was deeply exposed last year. More reps/practice could help fix the reactions, but his arm has never been the highlight of his game and expecting that to change at this point in his career is a fantasy (and I seriously doubt it is one shared in Toronto).

    I love Polanco, and he was a hero for giving 3B a shot at a time of need last year, but if I never see him play there again (regardless of the uniform he wears) I'll be a happier fan.

    4 minutes ago, PatPfund said:

    Well this fan has played ball for almost 60 years including long stretches at all of the positions except pitcher, and giggles at anyone who thinks infield is the same except for where you stand (consider for instance that SS is considered the top of the defensive spectrum while 1B is the bottom).

    3B is a space where you can hide reduced foot-speed, but it requires fast reaction time and a strong accurate arm; the last two being areas Jorge was deeply exposed last year. More reps/practice could help fix the reactions, but his arm has never been the highlight of his game and expecting that to change at this point in his career is a fantasy (and I seriously doubt it is one shared in Toronto).

    I love Polanco, and he was a hero for giving 3B a shot at a time of need last year, but if I never see him play there again (regardless of the uniform he wears) I'll be a happier fan.

    I've played the game to. 

    Anybody who has played ball for 60 years including long stretches at all positions understands what baseball players are capable of and the shades of differences in skill sets from position to position.  

    Yes 3B requires reflex and a strong accurate arm on SOME BALLS HIT THEIR WAY. Gotta be able to charge and throw as well. Gotta learn the cut system for that position. 

    But, it's a mistake to assume that 2B doesn't also require a strong accurate arm on SOME BALLS. 

    When you think about it... using those 60 years of experience to draw upon. The thought that a BASEBALL PLAYER with 6,674 major league infield innings (the majority of those innings spent at SS - 4,478) plus 6 years of minor league infield is NOT CAPABLE anywhere else but a single position. 

    If defense was the primary concern... The Jays would have just locked up Chapman who is one of the finest defensive 3B that I have ever seen. Besides... the Jays can just play Polanco at 2B and look for a different 3B or play Biggio there. Or move Vlad Jr. back.  

    Players have to hit and field. 

    Logical conversation as a 60 year baseball expert needs to refrain from declarations that Polanco can't play 3B based on a couple of boots in a single playoff game.

    Probably 10,000 innings of experience in the dirt.

    Correa is a better SS than Polanco is. That doesn't mean Polanco sucks.

    Lewis is probably a better 3B than Polanco is... that doesn't mean Polanco sucks. 

    Polanco is probably a better 2B than Julien is... that doesn't mean Julien sucks.      

     

    9 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

    I've played the game to. 

    Anybody who has played ball for 60 years including long stretches at all positions understands what baseball players are capable of and the shades of differences in skill sets from position to position.  

    Yes 3B requires reflex and a strong accurate arm on SOME BALLS HIT THEIR WAY. Gotta be able to charge and throw as well. Gotta learn the cut system for that position. 

    But, it's a mistake to assume that 2B doesn't also require a strong accurate arm on SOME BALLS. 

    When you think about it... using those 60 years of experience to draw upon. The thought that a BASEBALL PLAYER with 6,674 major league infield innings (the majority of those innings spent at SS - 4,478) plus 6 years of minor league infield is NOT CAPABLE anywhere else but a single position. 

    If defense was the primary concern... The Jays would have just locked up Chapman who is one of the finest defensive 3B that I have ever seen. Besides... the Jays can just play Polanco at 2B and look for a different 3B or play Biggio there. Or move Vlad Jr. back.  

    Players have to hit and field. 

    Logical conversation as a 60 year baseball expert needs to refrain from declarations that Polanco can't play 3B based on a couple of boots in a single playoff game.

    Probably 10,000 innings of experience in the dirt.

    Correa is a better SS than Polanco is. That doesn't mean Polanco sucks.

    Lewis is probably a better 3B than Polanco is... that doesn't mean Polanco sucks. 

    Polanco is probably a better 2B than Julien is... that doesn't mean Julien sucks.      

     

    Dude, you can type as many words as you want, pretending I said things I didn't say (pretty sure the only one using the s--ks word is you, I actually said I loved Jorge; never said people couldn't play more than one spot and in fact have advocated on this site for playing Jorge at 1B if he stays a Twin), but I'd bet my Tom Kelly Wearing Zubaz Smoking A Stogie T-shirt that the Blue Jays are unmoved by the prospect of trading pitching for a 3B who can field SOME BALLS, and can sometimes be accurate throwing SOME BALLS. (Well, OK, maybe not that shirt. I love the thing. Maybe my reputation? That means less to me.)

    On 12/18/2023 at 4:55 PM, Riverbrian said:

    Morosi was the guy who reported and apologized later for letting the world know that Shohei Ohtani was signing with Toronto and on a plane heading for Canada which had everyone tracking the plane. When it landed Robert Herjavec the Shark Tank guy got out of the plane and was surprised by his welcoming party. 

    Too hip for the room, you are.  :)

    23 hours ago, Cris E said:

    Sounds like his injury is in his hat, not his sleeve. ...

    ...

    and the fewmets could really hit the windmill.

    First I learned a great turn of phrase that I'm sure I'll wind up stealing in some future context.  And then I learned a new word!  All in one post!

    11 hours ago, PatPfund said:

    Dude, you can type as many words as you want, pretending I said things I didn't say (pretty sure the only one using the s--ks word is you, I actually said I loved Jorge; never said people couldn't play more than one spot and in fact have advocated on this site for playing Jorge at 1B if he stays a Twin), but I'd bet my Tom Kelly Wearing Zubaz Smoking A Stogie T-shirt that the Blue Jays are unmoved by the prospect of trading pitching for a 3B who can field SOME BALLS, and can sometimes be accurate throwing SOME BALLS. (Well, OK, maybe not that shirt. I love the thing. Maybe my reputation? That means less to me.)

    I take full responsibility for use of the word sucks. I used sucks to make my point that he doesn't. 

    What you said... that drew the original response from me was:  

    On 12/18/2023 at 6:35 PM, PatPfund said:

    I'm sorry, but why on earth would the Jays want Polanco? He was absolutely dreadful at 3B last year, 

    It's way to early in the morning to a take a trip down the semantics rabbit hole so I'll pass. 

    The Twins chose Jorge Polanco to play 3B when Royce Lewis got hurt. They could have gone with Farmer or Castro they didn't and I assume it was because they felt that Polanco at 3B and Julien at 2B gave them the best chance to win. He made those errors and back to 3B he went. 

    I will also assume that the Jays will do the same thing that the Twins did. They will look around the room and play Polanco at a spot that gives them the best chance to win... If that's 3B because Davis Schneider has 2B locked up... It's 3B.

    The reason that the Jays would want Polanco is because he can hit and they need players who can hit from the left side and he has 10,000 innings of professional infield experience, the majority of that time was at SS the number #1 spot on the spectrum. 

    Regardless... your latest post stated "never said people couldn't play more than one spot". 

    OK I agree with that... I disagree with the not Polanco at 3B part.    




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