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    Sorting Out The Bullpen


    Nick Nelson
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    With Michael Tonkin and Ryan Pressly both being optioned in the past two days, the Minnesota Twins' bullpen picture is starting to come into focus, but there are still a lot of relievers in big-league camp.

    Part of that is the team needs plenty of arms to get them through these exhibition contests, but another part is that they face some tricky decisions. Let's take a shot at handicapping this race as it stands with about two weeks left to go.

    First, a quick look at the guys who are essentially locks:

    Glen Perkins, LHP

    Perkins was slowed early in camp by an oblique strain, but he pitched in a minor-league game on Thursday with no issues, and is expected to make his Grapefruit League debut this weekend. Both he and Terry Ryan have expressed full confidence he'll be ready to roll at the start of the season, barring any setbacks.

    Casey Fien, RHP

    Fien is inked in as the setup man presently, and if Perkins were to experience a setback, he'd be first in line to fill the closer role. Fien saw a few key numbers drop last season, causing his xFIP to rise to 3.87 from 2.71 in 2013, but he also added almost two full miles per hour to his average fastball velocity. He's been throwing hard and getting very good results in spring training.

    Brian Duensing, LHP

    Entering his seventh season with the Twins, Duensing is in line to be the bullpen's foremost lefty specialist, and it's a role for which he is well suited. In his career, he has held same-sided batters to a .233/.277/.322 slash line, and last year those numbers checked in at .242/.282/.305. Hopefully Paul Molitor can limit his exposure against righties.

    Tim Stauffer, RHP

    It's been a rocky spring so far for the veteran, but with a guaranteed $2.2 million contract, he's in as long as he's healthy. The Twins have ruled him out of the rotation race, so he'll be in the bullpen. He's likely to be a guy who will be called upon frequently to pitch multiple innings, with perhaps the occasional spot start as needed -- a la Anthony Swarzak. I don't think he really has the stuff to be an impact late-inning arm.

    That leaves three spots in a seven-man pen. Two of them are pretty close to being penciled in, though not quite as certain as the above four.

    Caleb Thielbar, LHP

    Thielbar is almost a lock, because I think Molitor will want to have multiple lefties at his disposal; Perkins doesn't really count as he's obviously not a match-up guy. Still, Thielbar hasn't had the greatest spring, allowing 10 hits in five innings, and the coaching staff might have confidence in some of the right-handers in the mix to get lefty bats out. Still, he seems very likely.

    Tommy Milone, LHP/Mike Pelfrey, RHP

    Whoever loses out in the fifth starter competition probably ends up in the bullpen as a long reliever, capable of being stretched out to join the rotation when a need arises. Ryan has stated strongly that he prefers Pelfrey as a starter, citing the veteran's preparation routine as one reason, so Milone is the leading candidate. Asked about the possibility of a relief role earlier this week, Milone sounded open to the idea: "Wherever they want me to go, I'm going to trust what they want to do and go with it." (If you're wondering whether the southpaw Milone's presence in the bullpen could make Thielbar more expendable, that's possible, but Milone has actually allowed a higher OPS against lefties than righties in his career.)

    Short of a surprise with one of the names above, that leaves one opening -- likely a middle relief role. Let's take a look at the remaining contenders, ranked in order of how likely they are to win that final spot from my view…

    J.R. Graham, RHP

    This year's Rule 5 pick has impressed this spring, flashing surprisingly huge velocity from his smallish frame. The Twins need to keep him on the 25-man roster in order to retain him -- unless they work out a trade with Atlanta -- so there's plenty of incentive to have him rounding out the bullpen if he's healthy and they believe in his ability.

    Blaine Boyer, RHP

    The veteran was signed to a minor-league deal after coming out of an injury-prompted retirement and playing for San Diego last year. He has a live fastball that draws rave reviews and has looked good in Grapefruit play for the most part. "He's made a nice impression over here, there's no denying that," Paul Molitor said following another strong outing on Friday. "He's making a run for it."

    Mark Hamburger, RHP

    He's a great story, and while he entered camp as somewhat of a long shot, I keep hearing positive things about him from different people. He was pitching extremely well in his first three spring appearances, striking out six with only one hit allowed in five innings prior to coughing up four earned runs against Baltimore this week. Molitor termed that outing a "little hiccup."

    A.J. Achter, RHP

    The tall, lanky 26-year-old has somewhat quietly been a tremendous performer in the Twins' minor-league system. Last year he allowed only 44 hits in 72 innings at Rochester, and had a decent September debut for the Twins. Achter has looked good this spring, and he eventually could be quite useful as a guy who can be counted on to get more than three outs, but he has multiple options and I believe he heads back to Rochester.

    Stephen Pryor, RHP

    Acquired from the Mariners last July in the Kendrys Morales trade, Pryor has big stuff but has always had a hard time throwing strikes. That hasn't been as much an issue this spring but it's tough see the Twins trusting him over some of the names listed above. He could be a factor at some point this season.

    Trevor May, RHP

    The pitching prospect appears to be behind Milone and Pelfrey in the fifth starter race, and could theoretically latch on in the bullpen, but the Twins have consistently downplayed that idea. They want to keep him acclimated to starting.

    Aaron Thompson, LHP

    Thompson has had a couple decent seasons at Rochester, and he can get left-handed batters out, but the only way I can see him making the roster is if Duensing or Thielbar gets hurt.


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    I wonder if anyone other than Perkins would make the Royals bullpen. Adding to the frustration is that they have no one with upside other than Graham.

     

    I suppose Pelfrey may have upside. How would they know? Has Pelfrey even come in mid inning with runners on base? Have they evaluated his ability to pitch on back to back days? Do they have any idea if he is suited for the role?

    I'm curious how Graham's velocity is "surprising".  It's certainly not surprising the Twins or anyone who's ever scouted him.  He's routinely hit triple digits on the radar gun when he cuts it loose and pitches in the high-90s even as a starter when healthy, but there's the rub - and why he was available in rule V - he is rarely healthy because he throws so hard every single pitch, which is why he hasn't had a full minor league season in his career.

    Our bullpen, imho, will piss away a lot of quality starts. I'm bummed that so little was thrown at the pen in the offseason. I see quality starts followed by circuis music on our horizon. Our relief corps would be on the Royals AAA team. Sorry to be negative but more and more I'm getting fed up with the Terry Ryan way.

    Our bullpen, imho, will piss away a lot of quality starts. I'm bummed that so little was thrown at the pen in the offseason. I see quality starts followed by circuis music on our horizon. Our relief corps would be on the Royals AAA team. Sorry to be negative but more and more I'm getting fed up with the Terry Ryan way.

    There are many reasons to be frustrated with Ryan but his bullpens are not one of them. The guy has built a career of slapping together quality bullpens on the cheap.

     

    Yeah, I'm not in love with the appearance of the 2015 pen but I'm going to let them pitch before I get too upset about it.

    There are many reasons to be frustrated with Ryan but his bullpens are not one of them. The guy has built a career of slapping together quality bullpens on the cheap.

    Yeah, I'm not in love with the appearance of the 2015 pen but I'm going to let them pitch before I get too upset about it.

    Since his return Ryan's bullpens have ranked 28th, 24th and 29th according to xFIP. While cheap, they haven't been quality.

    They've gotten the job done, whether xFIP wants you to believe that or not.

     

    Any failings of the bullpen have been directly tied to the rotation and eight men bullpens. The Twins' core bullpen guys have been "good enough". No, they're not flashy and no, they're not the darling of advanced metrics but they haven't killed the team.

     

    What has killed the pitching staff is a rotation that can barely pitch five innings a game. No bullpen will shine under that spotlight as you dig into your eighth, ninth, tenth, eleventh best bullpen option during the season.

    How about strike outs instead of xFIP? Let's just look at inning 7-9 and throw out the middle relievers coming in after those short starts.

     

    The Twins late inning relievers were 30th last year and it was even close. Even an improvement of 10% from 321 to 353 would keep them with a rank of 30. They ranked 19th in 2013 and 30th in 2012.

     

    The bullpen Ryan built for the team last year performed among the league's worst if not the worst. That includes the performance of the late inning guys. They performed poorly last year. They haven't performed well since Ryan returned.

     

    Maybe it is not possible to cobble together a cheap bullpen in the current era that Ryan has reentered. Maybe good bullpens are built on strong young arms rather than cast off veterans.

    I didn't mean to imply that last year's bullpen was good. My intent was to point out that Ryan's bullpens are rarely bad. Last year faltered as yet another rotation fell to pieces mid season but they weren't a very strong group of pitchers in the first place.

     

    I'm not going to fret about the bullpen until they throw innings in MLB games that count. Do I trust this bullpen? No, not even a little bit.

     

    But given the volatility of bullpen arms and the live arms in the Twins' farm system, I'm not going to go marching up to 34 Twins Way with a torch and pitchfork quite yet.

    There are many reasons to be frustrated with Ryan but his bullpens are not one of them. The guy has built a career of slapping together quality bullpens on the cheap.

    Yeah, I'm not in love with the appearance of the 2015 pen but I'm going to let them pitch before I get too upset about it.

    Yes, I agree that Ryan has done that in the past. My point is that I think his luck runs out this year. Hopefully I am proven wrong. I hope they do really well. Having said that, I just wish they had mixed in at least one stud free agent along with the "on the cheap" options. Staufer and a rule 5 guy, although one or both could work out ok, do not represent a real serious effort to improve an area of your team. You have an area that I feel needs help and you roll a hand full of dice at it and hope it works out. That doesn't cut it in the world of business imho. That is a little more explanation of why I feel the way I do on the matter I guess.

    They needed to go with young arms and let them grow. They would rather rid the certain mediocrity (or worse) from a veteran than give a long look to a young bullpen arm. They need to invest in that upside instead of continuing to cycle through cheap veterans.

     

    The old way of building a bullpen hasn't worked since his return. The bullpens of 2012-2014 were among the worst in baseball. At some point we have to stop thinking that Ryan has the ability to put together a good bullpen on the cheap.

    To me it seems like bullpens have become more important than ever the way the game has changed. Getting one guy with a solid MLB track record would have been a reasonable risk to take IMHO. Right now we don't have anyone, not even one guy, who strikes me as a blow the opponent away reliever. We are counting on guys in the pen that I personally feel are over rated and have marginal talent. I hope I end up being wrong. Good luck with Fien in the setup role and Duensing as primary non-closer lefty. At least there are proven guys behind them...........ahem........who are they again?

     

    They needed to go with young arms and let them grow. They would rather rid the certain mediocrity (or worse) from a veteran than give a long look to a young bullpen arm. They need to invest in that upside instead of continuing to cycle through cheap veterans.

    I can't really disagree with this take, at least not in 2015. The Twins have so many guys who could step into a relief role.

     

    I like the idea of scrapheap pick-ups but if they're not performing, you cast them aside quickly and you certainly don't let them get in the way of guys like Burdi.

    I think a team projected for 90 losses should be searching the waivers for guys like Felix Dubront to pitch the low leverage innings rather than decline phase veterans that will not be part of the solution.

     

    If Stauffer or Boyer don't have the talent to be late inning guys, they should not have a place on this roster.

    Cleveland released Scott Downs. It seems the Twins have flirted with him for years. He can't strike anyone out anymore, he's a lefty and he's old as dirt. Even money says the Twins are already on the phone with his agent.

    He was briefly property of the Twins back in 1998-1999. Acquired from the Cubs for Mike Morgan, then shipped back to the Cubs a few months later with Aguilera for Lohse.

     

    Wow, he is old! :)

     

    He was briefly property of the Twins back in 1998-1999. Acquired from the Cubs for Mike Morgan, then shipped back to the Cubs a few months later with Aguilera for Lohse.

    Wow, he is old! :)

    Yeah he is. Almost as old as our starting RF. Oh wait, I guess they are exactly the same age for a few months.

    Edited by jimmer

    Really disappointed this morning seeing Thielbar lose a spot. I realize that it is just Spring Training so far, but I just hope that if Stauffer continues to perform terribly, or if Boyer does not perform, Molitor/Ryan will be wiling to send them down/release them/whatever and bring back Thielbar.




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