Connor Prielipp - Closer / PPI?

[amjgt]

I think many of us consider the bullpen to be Prielipp's most likely long term landing spot, and given the lack of movement by the FO to retool the bullpen this offseason from outside the organization, it seems like the FO is assuming several open spots will be filled by players who have been starters. 

Prielipp seems like an obvious prime candidate for that and, hot off the presses, he is now a Baseball America top 100 prospect.

That got me thinking about PPI (Prospect Promotion Incentive). He would need to also appear on ESPN or MLB's top 100 preseason list to become eligible, but given the visibility of the closer role, if Prielipp has a successful season as the Twins closer he would certainly garner some ROY consideration, whereas if he was "just" a setup man, that seems less likely. 

Do you think Front Offices take this sort of thing into consideration?

[Chembry]

I am sure they think about it, but it's a very high bar.  The candidate has to win ROY or finish in top 3 of either MVP or Cy Young prior to arbitration.  Even if they win ROY, they either have to break camp with the team or called up within 2 weeks of opening day. 

Buxton had a career year and finished in 11th place.  Nick Kurtz would have won a PPI pick for the A's, but he wasn't promoted until late May.  If he finishes in, top 3 MVP voting the next 2 years, he will win the A's a PPI pick.

Since it's such a high bar, I don't think it plays any role as to when a prospect is promoted.  For that caliber of prospect, one would think the extra year of service time is more valuable to the team, but I may be off base in that line of thought.

[amjgt]

27 minutes ago, Chembry said:

I am sure they think about it, but it's a very high bar.  The candidate has to win ROY or finish in top 3 of either MVP or Cy Young prior to arbitration.  Even if they win ROY, they either have to break camp with the team or called up within 2 weeks of opening day. 

Buxton had a career year and finished in 11th place.  Nick Kurtz would have won a PPI pick for the A's, but he wasn't promoted until late May.  If he finishes in, top 3 MVP voting the next 2 years, he will win the A's a PPI pick.

Since it's such a high bar, I don't think it plays any role as to when a prospect is promoted.  For that caliber of prospect, one would think the extra year of service time is more valuable to the team, but I may be off base in that line of thought.

In general I agree with the idea that one more year of service time for most prospects is worth more than the long shot at the draft pick, but in this specific case, given Prielipp's age and injury history, I think it might be worth a shot. 

[Chembry]

6 minutes ago, amjgt said:

In general I agree with the idea that one more year of service time for most prospects is worth more than the long shot at the draft pick, but in this specific case, given Prielipp's age and injury history, I think it might be worth a shot. 

I agree that Prielipp should be given every chance to make the team out of ST for all the reasons you stated. 

Historically, the Twins don't like to spend much money on the bullpen and believe they can build a bullpen with mostly internal candidates.  Since Falvey did name Prielipp and eluded to him as a BP candidate at the GM meetings, his 2026 fate may already be sealed.  Raya was also mentioned in the same conversation.  

[Linus]

3 hours ago, Chembry said:

I am sure they think about it, but it's a very high bar.  The candidate has to win ROY or finish in top 3 of either MVP or Cy Young prior to arbitration.  Even if they win ROY, they either have to break camp with the team or called up within 2 weeks of opening day. 

Buxton had a career year and finished in 11th place.  Nick Kurtz would have won a PPI pick for the A's, but he wasn't promoted until late May.  If he finishes in, top 3 MVP voting the next 2 years, he will win the A's a PPI pick.

Since it's such a high bar, I don't think it plays any role as to when a prospect is promoted.  For that caliber of prospect, one would think the extra year of service time is more valuable to the team, but I may be off base in that line of thought.

I think you have assessed this accurately. Plus the pick is a comp round pick so it’s approximately in the 33-40 range. Better than nothing but definitely in the crap shoot territory.