Rehabbing Players

[John Belinski]

I would be really surprised if Buxton comes back this year. It appears the Twins are a better team without him in the lineup. 

I do not think we need Nick Gordon since he was just not hitting before he was put on IR list. I have not heard about how he is doing in the minors. 

[IaBeanCounter]

57 minutes ago, stringer bell said:

That’s what I thought. However, I’m pretty certain that the Twins will have to make room on their 40-man roster for Paddack and Nick Gordon when their rehab assignments expire. In addition, the Twin’s website shows Alcalá as being in the 60-day list, but I believe that is an error. 

Per the Twins transaction reports Alcala was put on the 60 day on 6/18.  When I look at the 40 man the Twins list 48, with 9 on the 60 day.  If that is correct one of the injured players can come off with a corresponding move to the 40 man.  

[IaBeanCounter]

Off the topic, but I was wondering how many years of team control do the Twins have on Royce Lewis?  TIA

[stringer bell]

12 minutes ago, IaBeanCounter said:

Per the Twins transaction reports Alcala was put on the 60 day on 6/18.  When I look at the 40 man the Twins list 48, with 9 on the 60 day.  If that is correct one of the injured players can come off with a corresponding move to the 40 man.  

Either way, since all of Alcalá, Gordon and Stewart will be rehabbing, there will have to be two corresponding moves when the rehab assignments expire. 

[Heezy1323]

On 9/13/2023 at 12:14 PM, Jocko87 said:

I watched Paddack in person last night but left before Alcala pitched.  Paddack looks every bit of the part but his velo dipped a bit and he was obviously getting tired.  Sat comfy 95 for two innings hitting 97 once and 96 a couple of times.  He was a man among boys for two innings, then we started to see some contact and foul balls in the 3rd and in the 4th he got hit hard.  The home run allowed was a monster shot on a 93mph fastball.

It looks to me like standard stretching out and he still has a few weeks to be truly ready but I'm wondering if his routine changes to get to the pen.  I was thinking about a spring training timeline and that all still works out but some of it has to happen in the bigs.  Two innings the stuff was electric, two innings average.

Just saw on Do-Hyoung Park Twitter that it one more relief session with Wichita for Paddack and one with St Paul.

Speaking of updates, lots of stuff on Do's twitter fresh on Buxton and others.  Too much to link here but the interesting news is on Buxton.  Interesting that they are just now doing a shot.  It makes me think they have been working a conservative approach to time up for the playoffs with the more drastic stuff.  I'm looking forward to our resident orthopedist to weigh in on this one.  I remember being concerned about Polo coming back without a procedure but if the body can heal itself that's always preferable.

https://x.com/dohyoungpark/status/1701993674802881026?s=20

https://x.com/dohyoungpark/status/1701993674802881026?s=20

I agree with most everyone's thoughts on Paddack, Alcala, Stewart and Gordon. Not sure I have any meaningful insight there, from a medical standpoint. 

 

As far as Buxton… it's hard to know. It sort of depends on if we take the information at face value or if we 'read between the lines'. 

At face value, there can be an in-folding of the joint lining called a plica that can sometimes cause discomfort in the knee. It can rub along the edge of the femur and cause irritation and pain. In my experience, it is uncommon for this to be an issue of any significance, but it is possible.

If we are reading between the lines, I am somewhat skeptical. If there had been a plica in Byron's knee, and it was anything of significance, I would think it would have been removed during his procedure last year. It is possible a new plica formed since surgery, I suppose. My speculation (emphasis on speculation) would be that the issue continues to be the surface cartilage issue that has been previously discussed. Cortisone injections can be used to treat both of these things (cartilage issue and plica). The idea being that the cortisone decreases inflammation within the knee, hopefully thereby helping swelling and pain. Other types of injections, such as platelet rich plasma (PRP) can also be used in a similar way (though there is less available data to support their use). I believe he has had PRP injections in the past as well. 

What I personally take away from this is that the Twins/BB are trying all possible avenues to get Buxton's knee settled down to something resembling normal in time to contribute for the playoffs. By all accounts, Byron has an exceptional determination to play, despite his injury ledger. However, given his history, I am skeptical his knee will suddenly 'turn the corner' to the point that he can withstand significant time in CF. That said, I will be the first to say that I have no first hand knowledge of his situation. There could absolutely be important details I am missing.

I hope I'm wrong. There's nothing I'd love to see more than Byron running down a line drive in the gap or legging out a triple in October. But I have to say it will surprise me if I do.

*insert sad face emoji*

[Richie the Rally Goat]

2 hours ago, stringer bell said:

Either way, since all of Alcalá, Gordon and Stewart will be rehabbing, there will have to be two corresponding moves when the rehab assignments expire. 

Paddack began his rehab 9/5. 21 days is Sept 26.

Gordon began his rehab 9/14(?) so his 21 day rehab would end 10/5 but the regular season ends 10/1.

Alcala began his rehab 9/9, so his 21 days are up 10/1 

Looks like Stewart is scheduled to return 9/21 but isn’t having a traditional rehab assignment.

https://www.mlb.com/twins/news/twins-injuries-and-roster-moves
 

my guess is Stewart fills the 40th spot on the roster-Headrick optioned, Paddack takes Floro’s spot (DFA) on the 40/26, Alcala and Gordon don’t get activated for the post season

my last guess is Buxton has another setback

[stringer bell]

8 minutes ago, Richie the Rally Goat said:

Paddack began his rehab 9/5. 21 days is Sept 26.

Gordon began his rehab 9/14(?) so his 21 day rehab would end 10/5 but the regular season ends 10/1.

Alcala began his rehab 9/9, so his 21 days are up 10/1 

Looks like Stewart is scheduled to return 9/21 but isn’t having a traditional rehab assignment.

https://www.mlb.com/twins/news/twins-injuries-and-roster-moves
 

my guess is Stewart fills the 40th spot on the roster-Headrick optioned, Paddack takes Floro’s spot (DFA) on the 40/26, Alcala and Gordon don’t get activated for the post season

my last guess is Buxton has another setback

Don't pitchers get 30 days? Regardless, they will have to be added to the 40-man. Someone will need to be sent down tomorrow when Ober is recalled.