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May 21st


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Rochester at Lehigh Valley Ironpigs 6:05 PM

Deduno

 

Binghamton vs New Britain 5:35 PM

NBR: May (2-2, 3.95)

 

Fort Myers at Lakeland 9:35 AM Doubleheader

 

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There's no one in the FSL within .200 of Sano's OPS (1.165 to the next best .947). That's flat out dominating the league.

 

In a "pitcher's league", no less.

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Sano doesn't want to be the #2 prospect in the Twins system or in the entire MLB.

 

May with another poor performance. 5IP, 6K, 5BB, 100 pitches, 59 strikes

 

Vargas with #8.

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How many teams could Sano be starting for, right now? (OK, not necessarily at Third Base, but come on, look at some of the paltry BA and OPS around both leagues, right now!)

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How many teams could Sano be starting for, right now? (OK, not necessarily at Third Base, but come on, look at some of the paltry BA and OPS around both leagues, right now!)

 

No telling, for a guy who has never batted above A+.

 

We will know more if he can handle AA pitching.

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No telling, for a guy who has never batted above A+.

 

We will know more if he can handle AA pitching.

 

I think you need more depth of information to appreciate what Sano is doing in the Florida State League, I for one have no doubt about his ability to handle AA or AAA pitching. His current league is renowned as being owned by the pitchers, the proof is all there in the numbers. It's really the reverse-PCL. Besides Sano leading his nearest competitor for the lead in FSL OPS avg. by an astounding, no, make that incomprehensible, 230 points (.1165 to .935), here is the recent history for OPS leaders in the league:

 

2012: .911 (one player over .900)

2011: .919 (one player over .900)

2010: .910 (one player over .900)

2009: .824 (zero players over .900)

2008: .959 (three players over .900)

2007: .973 (two players over .900)

2006: .897 (zero players over .900)

2005: .978 (2 players over .900)

 

What he's doing is really unprecedented. His manager says he could be playing in the majors right now. I think the only thing holding him back at all is the glove.

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I put it at least 50/50 he makes his debut in September. That is an appropriate timetable.

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I think you need more depth of information to appreciate what Sano is doing in the Florida State League, I for one have no doubt about his ability to handle AA or AAA pitching. His current league is renowned as being owned by the pitchers, the proof is all there in the numbers. It's really the reverse-PCL. Besides Sano leading his nearest competitor for the lead in FSL OPS avg. by an astounding, no, make that incomprehensible, 230 points (.1165 to .935), here is the recent history for OPS leaders in the league:

 

2012: .911 (one player over .900)

2011: .919 (one player over .900)

2010: .910 (one player over .900)

2009: .824 (zero players over .900)

2008: .959 (three players over .900)

2007: .973 (two players over .900)

2006: .897 (zero players over .900)

2005: .978 (2 players over .900)

 

What he's doing is really unprecedented. His manager says he could be playing in the majors right now. I think the only thing holding him back at all is the glove.

 

My favorite comp (not Miggy) put up a similar line (if you look deeper) - 50 games, 12 HR's, .294/.390/.578/.968. The line isn't as good but Stanton had a normal BAPIP and played in one the worst hitting stadiums in the FSL. Ft Myers is actually an average hitting stadium compared to the rest of the FSL. The FSL is really skewed towards pitchers parks though so an average stadium is still a pitchers park and all of those road games are tough also.

 

The reason to be really excited is that Stanton completely demolished AA the following year and was a midseason promotion. :th_alc::jump::go:

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Maybe this is a minor point, and if I am wrong about the rules I hope someone corrects me, but...

 

While I do not think a September call up for Sano is even close to a 50/50 proposition, it is important to remember that 'options' are only used when a player is sent down. Therefore, if Sano does receive a look in September, we wouldn't have to use an option until (or if) he is sent down next spring. And at that point we can call him up and send him down any number of times during the 2014 season... and who doesn't think we would call him up at some point in 2014 anyway? In that scenario, we may need to send him back down and would use an option anyway.

 

So to re-cap, if Sano is called up in September, we will need to create a spot on the 40-man roster a year earlier than we would have to, and could potentially lose the 40th man on the roster. In addition, a September call up may mean that Sano's three year option clock will start in 2014 rather than possibly 2015, which would mean he has to be established in the majors by the start of the 2017 season instead of the 2018 season (snicker, snicker).

 

Sano may not be called up in September but, if that is the case, it will be for baseball reasons and not because of the 40-man roster, the option clock, or salary arbitration/free agency concerns.

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I don't expect a call up this year, though certainly he will be in camp next year. In Terri Ryan's interview he talked about his maturity and my guess as soon as a few minor things are addressed he'll be in 2A or 3A ASAP. Just do not see the twins taking up a spot on the 40 man this year. Hope I'm wrong.

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