Where do you think the Twins rank in grounded into double plays?

[Rik19753]

Quick question: Where do you think the Twins rank in numbers of grounded into double plays?

My first thought when it comes to Twins and double plays is that Correa has got to be the league leader in GIDP. It seems like he grounds into double plays more often than any player that I've ever seen. Turns out, he has 7 GIDPs this year, which is tied for 11th in the league. Miranda also has 7 GIDPs this year.

Now, back to the initial question. Below are the rankings of the teams that have the most GIDPs.

1. MIA (41)

2. MIL (41)

3. ATL (40)

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26. MIN (26)

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30. LAD (16!)

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=0&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2023-01-01&enddate=2023-12-31&sort=19,d

I was quite surprised to see the Twins so low on the list. With MIA and MIL looking so similar to MIN, I thought the Twins were at the top, which would have been much less surprising for me. But it seems that the Twins have been relatively good at avoiding double plays. Given that Miranda and Correa account for 14 of the 26 GIDPs, the rest of the team has been tremendous at avoiding them.

Going by percentage of GIDPs in GIDP opportunities, the Twins are 24th at 8.5%. The Marlins have grounded into a DP 15.5%(!) of the time when given the chance. They've had the least opportunities to GIDP, yet they have the most GIDPs, which is mind-blowing.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/majors/2023-situational-batting.shtml

[ashbury]

I'm at a loss too.  Expect regression to the mean, probably?

[Brock Beauchamp]

25th in batting average, 25th in on-base percentage, 15th in slugging. This isn't a team that gets on base very often and it's often not on first base when they do. Then couple that with 27th in strikeout percentage and 28th in groundball percentage (as in 27 teams hit more groundballs) and you have a team that simply doesn't GIDP that often.

[Jocko87]

1 hour ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

25th in batting average, 25th in on-base percentage, 15th in slugging. This isn't a team that gets on base very often and it's often not on first base when they do. Then couple that with 27th in strikeout percentage and 28th in groundball percentage (as in 27 teams hit more groundballs) and you have a team that simply doesn't GIDP that often.

Yet somehow 10th in runs scored.  Average performance with bases loaded gets them to 6-7 range.  There are reasons to be optimistic about this offense when some of the odd things normalize.  They will not be league leaders in average or OBP but just getting in the top 20 is reasonable and exciting.

Always good to step back and compare to the league for context.  It's so easy to just watch our team and make wild extrapolations.  The offense can be frustrating as heck to watch especially situational hitting but you know what would really be frustrating?  The Guardians and the Tigers, bottom two in the league in runs scored, by a lot.  It's much harder to see upside for those offenses.

[Parfigliano]

1 hour ago, Jocko87 said:

Yet somehow 10th in runs scored.  Average performance with bases loaded gets them to 6-7 range.  There are reasons to be optimistic about this offense when some of the odd things normalize.  They will not be league leaders in average or OBP but just getting in the top 20 is reasonable and exciting.

Always good to step back and compare to the league for context.  It's so easy to just watch our team and make wild extrapolations.  The offense can be frustrating as heck to watch especially situational hitting but you know what would really be frustrating?  The Guardians and the Tigers, bottom two in the league in runs scored, by a lot.  It's much harder to see upside for those offenses.

Bottom two in runs scored but right on Twins ass.  It's almost like when you score runs matters.