IdahoPilgrim Provisional Member Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Let's all not forget Butera's true value - he can also come out of the bullpen and pitch when the Twins are getting shellacked and Gardy doesn't want to waste a reliever. (I'll let you all decide whether I'm being serious or speaking tongue-in-cheek).
FrodaddyG Verified Member Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 but... Since Gardy seems to think differently.And, as also stated before, he either thinks having a barely-trained catcher catch is better than punting at worst a handful of ABs from the DH, or he's planning around the infinitesimally small chance that both his catchers get hurt. Whichever of those is driving his mindset is far beyond stupid from a baseball standpoint. Catering to misguided notions is not how you change the mindset behind misguided notions. Informing Gardy of the fact that "planning for this never-going-to-happen scenario is ****ing stupid, your third catcher is a phone call away in Rochester" would be a boon to the roster composition of the team. Hypothetical "conversation": Person A manages a small warehouse employing 25 people which needs two guys to cover the receiving of shipments. Person B is the owner. A: "I need a third guy for receiving."B: "Why? Are we busier?"A: "No, but what happens if both guys get sick?"B: "Are both guys sick?"A: "No."B: "Is one guy sick?"A: "No."B: "But if one guy got sick, the other could cover for him, right?"A: "Yeah, but what if they both get..."B: "Why are you expecting them both to get sick?"A: "Well, you know, what if they do?"B: "Doesn't just about everyone who works here know enough about receiving shipments to get through a day even if that happened?"A: "Sure, but it would be nice to have someone who knew it better."B: "I'm sure it would, but we can only afford to pay so many people. I'd have to fire someone elsewhere. It hurts the company."A: "Yeah, but I'd feel a little better knowing that guy was there."B: "So preparing for this situation is more important to you than the company running its best?"A: "Yes. Yes, it is."B: "You're fired."
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 If I could take one thing out of Gardy's brain, tie it to an anchor and drop it in the middle of the ocean. It would be his desire for a third catcher. It's a fault of his in my opinion. Years have gone by... It still is what it is... I disagree with Gardy strongly but I welcome a compromise... Escobar taking an emergency catcher role tacked on to his infield duties pleases me because the alternative is Butera taking up a roster spot. Overall... It's a criticism from me and a solution for this should have been in motion many years ago. Gardy has been here a long time... His philosophy is known or it should be... The issue hasn't been addressed and the philosophy remains. The solution for a problem that I dont believe exists has been placing a third catcher on the roster year after year... that is shortsighted and lacks creativity... They should have solved this long ago. BTW... Good job on the script. Well done.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 And, as also stated before, he either thinks having a barely-trained catcher catch is better than punting at worst a handful of ABs from the DH, or he's planning around the infinitesimally small chance that both his catchers get hurt. Whichever of those is driving his mindset is far beyond stupid from a baseball standpoint. Catering to misguided notions is not how you change the mindset behind misguided notions. Informing Gardy of the fact that "planning for this never-going-to-happen scenario is ****ing stupid, your third catcher is a phone call away in Rochester" would be a boon to the roster composition of the team. Hypothetical "conversation": Person A manages a small warehouse employing 25 people which needs two guys to cover the receiving of shipments. Person B is the owner. A: "I need a third guy for receiving."B: "Why? Are we busier?"A: "No, but what happens if both guys get sick?"B: "Are both guys sick?"A: "No."B: "Is one guy sick?"A: "No."B: "But if one guy got sick, the other could cover for him, right?"A: "Yeah, but what if they both get..."B: "Why are you expecting them both to get sick?"A: "Well, you know, what if they do?"B: "Doesn't just about everyone who works here know enough about receiving shipments to get through a day even if that happened?"A: "Sure, but it would be nice to have someone who knew it better."B: "I'm sure it would, but we can only afford to pay so many people. I'd have to fire someone elsewhere. It hurts the company."A: "Yeah, but I'd feel a little better knowing that guy was there."B: "So preparing for this situation is more important to you than the company running its best?"A: "Yes. Yes, it is."B: "You're fired." How soon can we convince Person B to buy the Twins?
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 How soon can we convince Person B to buy the Twins?Unfortunately, money and reason don't go hand and hand.
Kwak Verified Member Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Or, maybe Gardenhire just wanted to see Butera get a MLB paycheck? Now that Drew has an arbitrated contract, I believe he gets the same money whether he's in Minnesota or Rochester. Gardenhire's mission is accomplished--hence he can "let go" of his requirement for 3 catchers.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 To be fair though, the Twins had NOBODY who deserved that 25th roster spot last year. I disagree. Anthony Slamma did.
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