Connecticut School Shooting

[PseudoSABR]

I feel that my shotgun is ample for home defense, and I would not want to lose my "right" to defend my home against criminals who may be armed. On the other hand, assault rifles seem excessive for home defense and more dangerous in the hands of a madman than a shotgun.

The majority of people agree with this. Hopefully, something gets done. There's a minority of people who actually believe they have a 'right' to such weapons. Boo-hoo for them.

[luke829]

To change the subject just slightly, it will be interesting to see what the geneticists discover with their research. Was the guy wired wrong from birth, a product of his environment, or both? And as far as weapons are concerned, I agree that assault weapons (as least in the hands of civilans) seems absurd. I have yet to see your average hunter out in the field utilizing such a weapon for game (at least I don't).

[Reginald Maudling's Shin]

The majority of people agree with this. Hopefully, something gets done. There's a minority of people who actually believe they have a 'right' to such weapons. Boo-hoo for them.

The problem is, the weapons identified as assault rifles are not that different than those used for hunting. If by assault rifle you mean a fully automatic rifle then we would all be in agreement (but those are already banned). People seem to want to ban so-called assault rifles because they "look mean". The rifle used by Lanza was about the same caliber as one I used as a teen to hunt squirrels. Are we going to ban .22s now?

 

There is absolutely no nuance in the gun control debate from leftists like Feinstein who want to register every single firearm in the USA. That's why people are pissed off. I don't agree with bans on semiautomatic rifles, nor do I agree with bans on limiting magazine capacities, mainly because they won't do anything. None of these proposed weapons bans will have any effect at all on the next mass murder. You know it and I know it. So let's stop pretending like politicians like Feinstein are trying to help keep people safe here. She and her ilk have a philosophical issue with people owning guns at all.

[luke829]

Apparently the father claimed the body, which just goes to show that no matter how estanged you are from your children or how wicked their actions, you are still a parent first and foremost.

[Brock Beauchamp]

The problem is' date=' the weapons identified as assault rifles are not that different than those used for hunting. If by assault rifle you mean a fully automatic rifle then we would all be in agreement (but those are already banned). People seem to want to ban so-called assault rifles because they "look mean". The rifle used by Lanza was about the same caliber as one I used as a teen to hunt squirrels. Are we going to ban .22s now?

 

There is absolutely no nuance in the gun control debate from leftists like Feinstein who want to register every single firearm in the USA. That's why people are pissed off. I don't agree with bans on semiautomatic rifles, nor do I agree with bans on limiting magazine capacities, mainly because they won't do anything. None of these proposed weapons bans will have any effect at all on the next mass murder. You know it and I know it. So let's stop pretending like politicians like Feinstein are trying to help keep people safe here. She and her ilk have a philosophical issue with people owning guns at all.[/quote']

 

Very true. I don't get this "assault rifle" nonsense. As you said, most of them are little more than a tarted-up hunting rifle (and most actually use smaller calibre rounds than, say, a deer rifle). Banning them accomplishes nothing and is the worst kind of turd polishing Washington can devise.

 

Mental health support, better screening processes, conceal/carry law revisions, and a long hard look at handguns are where we should be starting. Not ****ing "assault rifles". As usual, Feinstein has her head up her ass when it comes to guns. We need real solutions, not token gestures so all the Dems can go home an tell their constituencies that they "fixed" the problem because they banned a bunch of black matte rifles that are the similar size, shape, and calibre to a typical hunting rifle.

 

But you'd still be able to go buy that same hunting rifle. Derp.

[TheLeviathan]

Reg (or anyone else) I'm no gun expert.....so care to share thoughts on what Obama presented today?

 

I'm curious to see the details on the two mental health provisions that are executive orders, I haven't seen much about what that entails so far.

[glunn]

Very true. I don't get this "assault rifle" nonsense. As you said, most of them are little more than a tarted-up hunting rifle (and most actually use smaller calibre rounds than, say, a deer rifle). Banning them accomplishes nothing and is the worst kind of turd polishing Washington can devise.

 

Mental health support, better screening processes, conceal/carry law revisions, and a long hard look at handguns are where we should be starting. Not ****ing "assault rifles". As usual, Feinstein has her head up her ass when it comes to guns. We need real solutions, not token gestures so all the Dems can go home an tell their constituencies that they "fixed" the problem because they banned a bunch of black matte rifles that are the similar size, shape, and calibre to a typical hunting rifle.

 

But you'd still be able to go buy that same hunting rifle. Derp.

 

I have always been a shotgun guy. But it seems to me that an AR-15 would be more maneuverable in close quarters than a hunting rifle.

[Willihammer]

I have a Bushmaster AR-15. The barrel weighs a ton, its very unwieldy in my opinion. I mounted a by-pod to it with a 30x scope and use it to hunt prairie dogs and coyotes.