JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 I wonder if the Twins have done a cost benefit analysis on leasing their own MRI scanner .... or at least have negotiated some kind of whopping group discount.
YLT Provisional Member Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 Is it normal for any pitcher no matter his previous arm health to be throwing anywhere near "hard" in the first few days of spring training?
Twinsfanforlife Provisional Member Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 Is it normal for any pitcher no matter his previous arm health to be throwing anywhere near "hard" in the first few days of spring training?You would think with his history it would be no but who knows, if he falls through do the twins go out and try to find another power arm in free agency or sit the year out with the pie throwers we have now?
Jeremy Nygaard Twins Daily Contributor Posted February 25, 2012 Author Posted February 25, 2012 Is it normal for any pitcher no matter his previous arm health to be throwing anywhere near "hard" in the first few days of spring training?Especially in batting practice to the guy with the concussion problems... Could you have imagined... he lets it fly, the arms snaps, the ball comes in high and inside. Two birds. One stone.
John Bonnes Site Manager Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 Zumaya has been working in ST for weeks. I doubt he did anything too early.
Fanatic Jack Provisional Member Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 I'm just amazed someone as smart as Terry Ryan does not have a backup plan for the bullpen. Zumaya has never, ever, ever, been healthy!!
Fanatic Jack Provisional Member Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 Paging Michael Wuertz, Paging Michael Wuertz. Please TR call him.
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 I'm just amazed someone as smart as Terry Ryan does not have a backup plan for the bullpen. Zumaya has never, ever, ever, been healthy!!Lots of backup plans... about 25 of them in the Camp already. But let's wait until tomorrow and the MRI results to pronounce the patient dead...
darin617 Verified Member Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 Never saw this coming did we? Terry Ryan shows how smart he is giving away $400,000 like this. It might not be serious but you know he has no chance of making the team if he already has a setback so early in camp. Now we will have to wait and see if the Pohlad boys will give Terry Ryan some more money for a pitcher. So sad.
iTwins Verified Member Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 Some guys are just done in by their mechanics. Seems like Zumaya simply puts more stress on his arm than his body can handle. Unfortunately, this news was almost expected given his history. Here's hoping the Twins make another move to replace Zumaya. (All of this assuming the worst of course).
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 As Thrylos said, there are plenty of strong arms in camp who are better than any of the free agents left. I'd rather they give guys like Waldrop, Gutierrez and Others get a chance. Guys like Perdomo or Deduno could fill the role. We shall see.
Fanatic Jack Provisional Member Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 Seth, Right now with Zumaya headed for T.J. surgery we need 4 spots filled in the bullpen. You honestly believe the people we brought in can fill those spots? Not one of them have a proven tack record for either M.L. success or for staying healthy. They would have a better chance of winning the lottery!!!
Highabove Provisional Member Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 Regarding the Bullpen, it seems like last year all over again. How did that work out? Groundhog day?
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 Ryan was live on ESPN 1500 radio a bit ago (with Souhan, so there was a lot of directed negativity) and practically he did not say anything more. They are concerned and especially because of his history. Looks like the Twins will know the MRI results later today and they will probably go on twitter (with about 6 reporters in Ft Myers now) pretty fast I suspect. I did a little exercise and now that the notebooks are all posted, I was looking for quotes about Zumaya from the Twins and I think that it might be better than what we thought initially. If you care, I compiled that stuff and kinda came to a conclusion here.
Evan Grabouski Provisional Member Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 Torn UCL. So many Zumaya memories...
JB (the Original) Provisional Member Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 http://eye-on-baseball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22297882/34998354
Gernzy Verified Member Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 Can't help but feel bad for Zumaya. If he would have been healthy...man that would have been nice. Let's hope someone new can step up.
StormJH1 Verified Member Posted February 27, 2012 Posted February 27, 2012 I feel awful for the dude himself, but we can stop talking about Zumaya pretty soon because he'll never play for the Twins, and probably will never play again. The guy was 100% green lighted and couldn't even make it through Spring Training. This was always the risk, and part of the reason that I felt like our bullpen was absolute garbage heading into 2012. Since 2009, they've basically deleted Nathan, Crain, Mijares, Guerrier, and Rauch without making any other significant additions (except retaining Capps, who isn't that good). You had to assume that Zumaya would get hurt, because he always has gotten hurt. So what does that leave you with? Many organizations have the ability to just promote from within and get new relievers, but the Twins CANNOT. When you don't believe in power arms for starting pitchers, then you don't even have the option of moving failed starters into the bullpen. Honestly, would you rather have Jamey Carroll for 3 million, or two or three of the relief pitchers on the market that signed for about 1-2 million?
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