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Well, surely we can all at least agree that Bartolo Colon deserved the Cy Young over Johan in 2005, right?

Colon should have been behind Rivera in the voting for second place

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One last run at this:

 

2013: Number of starting pitchers with ten or more wins = 0

2014: Number of starting pitchers with ten or more wins = 2

 

Given the topic, that's a "quietly solid" sign of a reemerging starting rotation, with Hughes and Gibson at the top of that recovery. Sure, the team will need pitchers who can miss bats, stay durable and pitch 200+ innings, and have lineups that can hit behind them.

 

But at the end of the day, pitchers are credited with victories and losses in the box score. No other player receives a "W" or an "L" by his stat line. There's a basic, logical reason for this--good pitching wins ballgames...most of the time.

 

Seth's lead points out that "another 90 loss season is within reach." Yep, especially when Correia, Nolasco, and Fien follow Hughes and Gibson on the 2014 win chart with five victories each. We won't see the Twins post a winning record until five or six pitchers register 10+ victories--no matter what their other peripheral numbers might be. As winning pitchers, Hughes and Gibson have the Twins on the right track.

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You have to be optimistic about the future of the Twins staff.   Hughes and Gibson provide the foundation for a competitive rotation in 2015.   A strong finish from Nolasco will offer further stability going in to next year. Finally, having Milone, Meyer, May and Pelfrey competing for the last two spots next year provides multiple opportunities to come out of Ft. Meyers with a competitive rotation.

I think you can be cautiously optimistic.  If your 2 best pitchers are hovering around league average that leaves 3 spots filled with guys that are below average.  Hopefully Nolasco isn't as bad as he's looked this year, hopefully May and Meyer live up to the hype, and hopefully Milone can be average.  Pelfrey is toast.  Gibson looks like part of the future and maybe they can extend Hughes if he keeps it going because he could be more useful in 3 or 4 years than he will be over the next 2 unless they sign a true ace to anchor the rotation.

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Quiet?  How?  He has been spectacular, both on the good and bad side...how does that equate to Quiet or Solid?

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