Vazquez is not a back-up catcher and if you lose him you have a pee-poor catching staff, in exchange, you get an absolutely horrid first baseman,

Remember Kirilloff was replaced by Santana because he was a horrid first baseman.

Couple of things going on in your mind here perhaps. Do you think Hoskins is going to be better than the Twins first base guy? Are you thinking Vazquez needs to go and his replacement is ???? Do you believe that Paddack has low value?

The additional key here would be how the Brewers felt about Hoskins and the Twins players. From my side, I don't believe Milwaukee has any interest in either Twin player because they already are more or less set with back end rotation/swing pitchers and have a backup catcher already. Furthermore, I believe the Twins like both of their guys but will trade them for a positive asset. But, I actually don't know how either club views these players.  So, I'm not much help.

21 hours ago, tony&rodney said:

Couple of things going on in your mind here perhaps. Do you think Hoskins is going to be better than the Twins first base guy? Are you thinking Vazquez needs to go and his replacement is ???? Do you believe that Paddack has low value?

The additional key here would be how the Brewers felt about Hoskins and the Twins players. From my side, I don't believe Milwaukee has any interest in either Twin player because they already are more or less set with back end rotation/swing pitchers and have a backup catcher already. Furthermore, I believe the Twins like both of their guys but will trade them for a positive asset. But, I actually don't know how either club views these players.  So, I'm not much help.

I didnt research this.  I just say that Hoskins was making 17 - 18 million for one more year and thought hey i know the team is looking for a first basemen.  here is a possible solution.  though i dont think it works without prospects and cash being included.  I was thinking Milwaukee could use a back end starter.  I couldnt tell about a back up C.  and I figured if there was a good enough prospect or two in the deal we would get a 1B with some cash to ultimately lower payroll.  I didnt think any farther then that which is why i posted here for others with more time to research and comment.

3 hours ago, Brandon said:

I didnt research this.  I just say that Hoskins was making 17 - 18 million for one more year and thought hey i know the team is looking for a first basemen.  here is a possible solution.  though i dont think it works without prospects and cash being included.  I was thinking Milwaukee could use a back end starter.  I couldnt tell about a back up C.  and I figured if there was a good enough prospect or two in the deal we would get a 1B with some cash to ultimately lower payroll.  I didnt think any farther then that which is why i posted here for others with more time to research and comment.

Putting a player with this record on first, mean a team is not serious about winning.

Being the leader in errors in 2022, oh my just what the Twins need.

We would have better 1B results with playing Luke Keashall at 1B for 162 games in ‘25. At least he can grow into being a 1B man.

Just what we need, another Margot/ Gallo etc. type player, a 1Bman who can't hit with a high price tag. A Falvey creative play. We dodged the bullet by not signing Hoskins last season. Why would we want to take one this season? Hoskins is done, he's a terrible option at 1B. Besides having a terrible 1B, who's paying for his bloated salary? We'll end up having a larger budget problem and we'll end up in the same place next year, not developing our MLB 1B. MIL would love to get rid of him but they don't need an overpaid defensive catcher. And guess what? We are desperate for a defensive catcher especially one who knows & works well with our pitchers. Who relaces Vazquez? Camargo? Cartaya?Gasper? Even rotating these guys through, it'll still end up as a train wreck with Jeffers taking the primary catcher role. A devasted prime position catching core will take us to a worse position than last season no matter how good we look on Falvey's spreadsheet. In the end, Falvey will go to the FA scrap heap to acquire an expensive bandaid to try to fix this gaping wound. Paddack can help MIL but they'll want a smaller price tag. In summation, a terrible hitting 1Bman, unfulfilled future 1B development because Hoskins will be cemented at 1B no matter how bad he is,  a worsen budget crunch especially after going to the FA scrap heap, a terrible catching core & possibly worsened pitching core as a result. No, thank you.

I'm sorry that I'm a little harse but I want to squash this type of Falvey-type narrow thinking that permeates social media.

Miranda is our best option at 1B, he has very good upside. I know I'll get a lot of backlash from this but FO made a lot of bad decisions last season. One was making Julien the main 2Bman & because of Julien's inadequacy, they made their 2nd bad decision of by-passing our inhouse bats for an outhouse glove. Santana did a lot of cheating to try to compensate for Julien. This gave Santana a lot of opportunities to look good but what made me sick was when I was able to watch the Twins, I saw a lot of balls going for hits near the 1B line because Santana was playing out of position to cover for Julien. When Correa was down not able to cover for Julien, then everybody could see Julien's warts.

If we had gone with a better 2Bman with decent range & a smooth DP play we could have gone inhouse better bats Miranda & Kiriloff who were coming off the IL due to shoulder injuries. Miranda & Kiriloff had great stats while healthy, but they couldn't play 1B because Santana was cemented there. Playing 1B (like they did with Keaschal) could have kept them healthy & continue their mashing. Instead, they were places where they constantly needed to use their shoulders, to compensate they hurt their shoulders. Resulting in bad stats & ending up on the IL & ending Kiriloff's career. Kiriloff not making that simple play at 1B during the playoffs has been unfairly burned into our minds (including especially Baldelli) carrying a stigma that Kiriloff can't play 1B but that poor play was also an effect of a bad shoulder. 1B was a wasted year because there was no future development there & no added value attributed to Miranda & Kiriloff. 

To avoid another wasted year of MLB development at 1B. We have to stick with Miranda at 1B to keep him healthy so he can keep on mashing & raise the quality at 1B. We do need a backup for Miranda, I do not see Julien as one. Julien could develop into an ok glove but I don't see him overcoming the major adjustment the league made with him, especially his hitting to meet the profile. Miranda also hits RHPs better which erases Julien as a platoon. Gasper? Ford? Lewis could be an immediate solution, Keaschal a later one. I also thought of Solano but he's gone. (BH) Polanco could be a better & cheaper option that could add a lot of leadership & clubhouse chemistry. 1B could also save Polanco's knees where he can return to his productive self.