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  1. There hasn't been an above average HS catcher drafted since Mauer in 2001 and Brian McCann in 2002. The best HS catcher drafted in the first round since that time is Jarred Saltalamacchia in 2003. And the catchers in this class aren't getting nearly the hype of the previously highly hyped backstops. HS catchers have such a high bust rate, likely because they have so much to learn about defense and calling games that thier offensive development takes a back seat. Besides, the difference between a top five cather in the league and a leage average catcher is less than the difference between other positions. Plenty of teams win a World Series with a non-descript catcher. Few win without top of the rotation arms. Even if a pitcher is not an option, you need to take the best offensive player regardless of position, and it wouldn't be a catcher.
  2. I don't think anyone here would care much about payroll either if this team was doing well. However they have many gaping holes and since there is no immediate remedy for those holes in the minors, (top of the rotation arms, middle infield help) the only rememdy is the extra money the brand new stadium is generating and the salary vacated by former players. Yet the Twins are not using it because it appears that paying over Terry Ryan's estimation of market value is an indignity he refuses to bare, even at the cost of success.
  3. But that's half the issue. If the Twins weren't going to use the flexibility bestwoed on them due to the lower than expected payroll on higher quality free agent pitchers, why did they sign any pitchers at all? If the goal is to develop your own arms and not build through free agency, why are Pelfrey and Correia taking roster spots away from Gibson, Hendriks, Deduno, Hernandez and DeVries? Obviously Ryan thinks he DOES need to use free agency, otherwise he wouldn't have signed anyone this offseason.
  4. No one is under that assumption. It is the opposite that some people are having problems grasping. Some are under the impression that a rebuild REQUIRES cutting payroll. It comes down to this: Player A costs $100 and has a 60% chance of being a useful player for you this year. Player B costs $50 and has a 30% chance of being a useful player for you this year. If money is supposedly not a factor, why would you not chose player A?
  5. Nice link but Jim Pohlad was depressingly optimistic: This year, though, the payroll will rise by roughly $30 million to a team record above $95 million. "All new ballparks have their peaks, and I'm sure the initial years will be very good to the Twins," Pohlad said. "Then it'll be up to us to sustain it after that, but the ballpark itself I think can sustain it for a long time."
  6. I wasn't comparing the two, I was pointing out that had the Twins signed Sanchez, they would not have needed to sign Pelfrey and would have basically gotten a $4 million dollar in-store credit they could have used toward the purchase of their Sanchez.
  7. No. So you admit that at least some options had the chance to be "average" and you also admit that the guys the Twins signed had even less of a chance at being "average." So why did the Twins sign the ones they did instead of the guys with a higher likelyhood of being "average?" Payroll should not have been an issue.
  8. Well the average payroll is $103 million and it's barely being swayed by the Yankees and Dodgers considering 14 teams are over $100 million. While the 5 teams Riverbrian listed are struggling, 8 are doing well. The only team under $100 million this year that could be considered a serious WS contender would be the Braves at $89 million. I agree, payroll isn't everything, but considering the Twins could have spent an additional $20 million this year and still not have been on the happy side of $100 million, they certainly could have made a better effort to bring in better talent, even if they were just rental players.
  9. That's cherry picking bad teams from the high payroll ranks. We could do the same with the bottom payroll teams which the Twins are one of. Looks like the Yankees, Tigers, Red Sox, Rangers, Giants, Cardinals, Nationals and Reds didn't make your list of teams spending over $100 million. The Cubs by the way have the 14th highest payroll and only 10 teams make the playoffs. Say the Twins did sign Anibal Sanchez instead of Mike Pelfrey, and to get him away from Detroit, they gave him an extra $2 million a year, they still wouldn't be in the top 14. Or 15 or 16 or 17 or 18 or 19.
  10. Who just happend to peg the value of every other free agent but somehow managed to overestimate the ability of a guy coming off TJ surgery with no history of being able to miss bats. Unfortunately his foresight was not able to save the team the the $4 million spent on Mike Pelfrey and now the season is ruined because they wasted that money!
  11. Well sure, but does anyone actually have faith that the Twins have this ability? Tampa drafts hard throwers and molds them into hard thowing pitchers who are able to man the front of a rotation. The Twins haven't shown this ability. Ever. Hopefully Berrios and Gibson are the first in a long line of exceptions but that remains to be seen. Though they have little practice at it, I do have faith that the Twins know how to write a check. Everytime I go to the grocery store I seem to end up behind two little old ladies who are able to manage this feat.
  12. Yup, Tampa has been competitive and basically been rebuilding for the last six years. This is why some of us were saying in the off season that the team could still go after quality free agents. Rebuilding doesn't mean you have to intentionally go in the tank, it just means you are prepping a new crop of players who have little to no experience. It does not automatically disqualify winning. Or spending for that matter.
  13. Agreed. I think it should go without saying that the top pitching prospects should not be blocked by back of the rotation arms. The is a business and the goal is to win with the best talent. The team doesn't "owe" anyone a longer look. Meyer and Berrios should be expecting the same treatment, May too if he gets back on his game.
  14. The second link is actually to MLB's 100 board, but I couldn't find a good link for a Mayo list either. Crawford has Stewert at #4. I like it as it provides some justification for anyone who is on the fence about drafting a HS arm early.
  15. James Shields Alex Meyer Kyle Gibson Jose Berrios DJ Baxendale Diamond signs a Denard Span-esge team-friendly extension this offseason and the Twins move him before the 2016 season to make room for Berrios. Worley takes his two pitch repetoir to the pen temporarily where he can also provide inssurance as the long man/spot starter.
  16. Yup, even though Willingham failed to advance to 3B and for some reason Doumit was standing in RF. Plouffe did seem to be the only one who knew what was going on but he is currently one of Gardy's Goats .
  17. Are you questioning his acumen? I just heard him say Ryan Pressley pitched better than Felix Doubront. You rarely find that kind of spot on analysis. He can evaluate talent with the best of them.
  18. Yup, after Hernandez left in the second I thought another starter may be needed at some point tonight and a spot starter might get called from Rochester. Now the Twins can resume the regular rotation and until Gibson's services are requested to replace Hernandez or Pelfrey next week. Edit: Check that, Dick says despite Gibson's awesome effort tonight Hernandez has earned enough rope to stay in the rotation. There you have it from a voice of authority. Gibson is less deserving than Hernandez.
  19. Right, but it's not as though Meadows can be slotted in CF with any certainty. It's not likely that he will stick there anyway. Even if he was capable, you'd basically be drafting a lesser offensive talent as insurance in case Buxton (the far superior fielder) didn't pan out. That's much too passive of an approach to the draft. I'm not exceedingly excited about Frazier either, but if the team thinks he has a higher ceiling, it would be silly for them to take a inferior hitter because he may be able play CF.
  20. If Stewert is the Twins BPA at #4 you pick him. He'll almost certainly sign for around #4 slot money. I'm sure his football option would come into play if he was looking at perhaps #10 slot money. Besides, as said above, the Twins would recieve the #5 pick next year and as we get closer to the draft, I'm getting less and less excited about all but the top three players.
  21. I'm not sure where this is coming from, are you replying to a different post or did you assume that I assume all corner outfielders are all-or-nothing sluggers? Either way, he's a grip it and rip it kind of guy, they tend to strike out a lot. Jonathan Mayo has the same concerns: Who's No. 1? Six leading candidates for the first pick in 2013 First-Year Player Draft | astros.com: News
  22. They added some vets in the first year at Target Field, but they played most of their competitve baseball at the Metrodome and they failed to take advantage of the decade large window that was open to them. It closed after the 2010 season, they needed to make a stand long before then.
  23. They were both great players to build around, the Twins just failed to properly suplement them by providing them with the necissary upgrades for the various deficiencies found on the team both midseason and during the offseasons. The "build for tomorrow" theory was the part that was a disaster. The Twins identified Mauer and Morneau as the two guys they needed to keep but then refused to deal prospects or take on salary to put the team over the hump.
  24. That's just it though, he hasn't exactly been a hard thrower this spring and the question is, was the Cape Cod season a mirage, or is there a lurking injury. I'm not too sure Braden Shipley hasn't passed Manaea on the list of most desirable college arms. The more I read the more I like him. After Bryant, I don't much like the bats either.
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