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CHW 6, MIN 2: White-Hot White Sox
wsnydes replied to Andrew Thares's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
This was my thought too. Those calls didn't look particularly egregious. Room for improvement, sure. But he was consistent in calling those as well. Chalk this up to the human element in my book.- 31 replies
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CHW 3, MIN 1: Twins Leave 15 Runners On Base
wsnydes replied to Nate Palmer's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I agree, Chief. It's not as though Hernandez wasn't also behind the plate when the Sox were in the field. I'm certainly not going to argue that he's a good umpire, but this line of logic has the stench of losers lament. Both teams had to deal with it. -
I was in the same boat, Nick. And, I too, can admit that I was wrong. However, I'm not really enjoying the quirkiness of the season. And I don't really care about fans in the seats because I watch most games without sound on anyway. While I have my complaints, I'm happy for those that are engrossed in it and for the relatively few that were able to return to their related jobs. And, when I do actually have the chance to watch, it is nice to at least have the option.
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I'm not convinced that Berrios even edges either of their #2 starters. But I do agree that that alone doesn't necessarily discount them from being a better overall team. Though, I don't really think the Twins are better than the Yankees. I have no idea what to think of the Astros chances at the moment. What it boils down to in my mind is that I simply don't trust the Twins pitching. Pitching wins come October, and really that's all I care about in the long run.
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They didn't win 101 games by playing sound defense though. In a sense, shifting them around might be ideal since it also keeps the same bats in the lineup. The bats will play regardless of where they play in the field. I'm not sold on moving Polanco or Arraez to the hot corner, but there's definitely room for improvement.
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Except the East has only one of the 5 worst teams in baseball rather than two and it also had a second playoff team. I wouldn't call that the same division. The East wasn't as good as it usually is, but it's still quite a bit better than the Central.
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It is in the pitching department, but I think you were absolutely correct in an earlier post about it not being 18-6 different. I do think experience plays into this as well. The Yankees have it, the Twins don't.
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Because I don't like giving up. If I go and lose with my two best pitchers, then I'm screwed at that point. The floodgates are open. At least with Odo going in Game 3, there's hope for a stop. I'm also not altering my approach for the series because something went wrong. That smells of panic. Plus, with Dobnak going in game 2, I have to steal one game. If Odo goes in game 2, I have to steal both. As said elsewhere, they needed game 1. And they needed game 1 regardless of who starts game 2. Odorizzi lives up in the zone, so his game doesn't play as well at Yankee stadium in the first place. I don't have a lot of faith that he fares any better. Dobnak only got tagged for 4 of those runs. Even if Odo goes 8 and gives up the same 4 runs, they still lose because the offense didn't get the job done either. I'm not suggesting that Dobnak pitched well, but they weren't winning that game by only scoring 2 runs. The offense had plenty of time to get back in the game and they didn't. The real problem is that Dobnak has to start in the first place. Games can't really be sacrificed in a five game series. Having him start is reducing the margin for error by quite a bit.
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I do think it makes a difference in who starts twice. But if you don't get to a game 5 it's irrelevant. And I have a much easier time accepting a game 2 loss by Dobnak than waving the white flag with him in game 3. The one thing we clearly agree on is that a loss is a given. That's not something I'd be willing to tell my team or my fans going into a game 3.
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And this is the only reason to start Odorizzi in game 2, I agree. But then you simply wave the white flag in Game 3 with Dobnak? I'd have a problem with that too. So again, I don't think it really makes any difference. The problem is that he's got to start in the first place. Maybe the offense scores more, maybe they don't. We don't know. Just like we don't know that Odo fares any better yesterday. When you've got to make decisions with nothing but bad options, there's only so much that can be done.
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And if Odorizzi gets lit up and loses game 2 anyway you have to rely on these guys anyway. In my view, it's really just a distinction without a difference. Either way these guys have to go. When they go is really just like shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic in my opinion. There really isn't an ideal situation to have them go at all. There'd be plenty of people destroying Rocco if Odo got lit up yesterday and now the hopes fall on a former Uber driver. I just don't see that it makes any difference. I think this conversation would be happening either way. Their strategy would still be bad and the results the same. 2 runs from the offense isn't beating the Yankees.
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I tend to agree with this, but I'm not sure a home start in a fired up Target Field in a do or die game would be any better of a scenario. He basically had to go at some point since there really aren't any better options. It's really just not an ideal scenario to be in a position where he had to start to begin with. But that's the hand that was dealt. And I think I'd prefer a veteran to go at a fired up Target Field in a do or die situation. Whichever game he started, it's ripe for second guessing. So in the end, I'm not sure it matters which game he started because neither situation is a good one.
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Right, but that strategy is based on the fact that none of the pitchers have the ability to get guys out within the zone. They know they'll get pounded if they stay in the zone. I think they were hoping to take advantage of the postseason adrenaline to override their discipline. I'm largely agreeing with you. I don't think it's a surprise at all. I think it's a bad strategy that is based on the inability to get guys out without them chasing. The Yankees are far too disciplined for that. I may be conveying my thoughts poorly, but I am agreeing with you. It's a poor strategy whether they're surprised or not
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I'd say that it's more about the pitcher's inability to get guys out without relying on hitters chasing than it is surprise. They Yankees, and other legitimate contenders, have lineups full of guys that simply don't chase and don't get themselves out very often. They wear out opposing pitching staffs. That's how they have to win in the regular season and that's the recipe for success in the postseason. That's also not a thing the Twins have done a good job of all year on either side of the ball. They can be free swingers in the AL Central and get away with it. They can throw stuff in the opposite batters box and get away with it in the AL Central. In my opinion, level of season-long competition plays a huge role in preparing a team for the playoffs. The AL Central has been bad for most if not all of its existence. That's not the end all since there have been WS winners that have come out of the Central, but they're more of the exception in my opinion. This team was built to beat up on the AL Central, not to be a true contender. There are plenty of people on these boards that have been saying that all year. It sucks, but that's the unfortunate reality.
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That's probably true, but that's what he should have done. And he wouldn't have been out. That's really the issue here. He was out because of his lack of hustle. I'm also sure there would be plenty that call him out for not hustling immediately turning that double into a triple in a key spot too. We're a fickle bunch, sports fans.
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In this case, the CF is backing up the play as he should be. He correctly read that the RF was going to the wall to try to catch it and he was shallow to back him up if the ball bounces off of the wall. The CF played it perfectly and that was made possible because he was where he was supposed to be. That's not atypical, that's basic fundamental defense. It was still a great play, but it was based on sound fundamental defense. If you look at the dugout view of Kirby's catch along the plexiglass from Game 6 of the '91 WS, you'll notice Dan Gladden doing the same thing. He was in position to play the carom.
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I get a good "one one-thousand, two one-thousand" count before he starts moving up the line. And then he's jogging to 1B. The ball is in the RF corner, so the play is behind him after he rounds 1B. The link shows him looking over his shoulder several times before rounding 2B never even looking at the 3B coach. I haven't seen an angle that shows the 3B coach, but it's moot since Rosario never looked at him anyway. If you haven't already, Chief posted a link of the play in a post upthread that you should take a look at. Is it a full-on pose? No, it isn't. He certainly lingers at the plate instead of charging out of the box. And then doubles down by jogging to 1B. That's the point people are making. And those two factors are what turned a triple into an out late in a close game. Those two factors alone should have caused him to stop at 2B.
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If this were April, bench him. This is September however, so now really isn't the time. Like Chief said, I've grown tired of his schtick and wouldn't mind an off-season trade for pitching. What probably disgusts me the most is that he comes off as someone that doesn't care right now. If you don't care about important baseball at this point in the season, especially where the sit in the standings, then when is it that you care? That's troublesome and very concerning.
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Yup, that was my issue too. I definitely abide by the "never make the last out at 3B" policy (especially in a close game like that), but there were two factors there that kind of override that in this case. One is preventable and the other requires a tip of the cap. I definitely appreciate how well the outfield played and executed that play. Defense played correctly is fun to watch in my opinion. Little things like that are what the Twins need to be better at to beat the Astros and Yankees.
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Beat me to the link! On the White Sox broadcast, Steve Stone raked him over the coals for it too, and he's right. That lack of hustle coming out of the box is what produced an out instead of a triple. And the line about not seeing the CF coming over is BS. The play is behind him, so he should be picking up his 3B coach to tell him what's going on.
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Front Page: Defensive Dive Highlights Twins Fall
wsnydes replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Percy Harvin would disagree with you on the migraines. I would disagree with you on Mauer. The Twins have 33 infield throwing errors this season so far. They had 31 all of last year. Mauer had 3 total errors last year, Twins 1B this year have 13 already. There's still a quarter of the season left. -
Front Page: Defensive Dive Highlights Twins Fall
wsnydes replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It's not a coincidence that the pitching has suffered accordingly as well. A staff that allows the ball to be put in play as often as this one does, solid defense helps immensely. Echoing Brock's comment, Buxton is so important to this team. He needs to stay on the field.

