Intelligent debate is fun and informative for everyone. Bickering turns off a lot of readers. There are plenty of Twins sites where bickering is plentiful. If you like bickering, please go to one of them, then come back here if you want to read or participate in a respectful, intelligent debate. What I would like to see is for someone to take this thread back on track. We are all Twins fans and we are better than this thread might suggest.