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  1. There was one other very noteworthy player. Google images of Hack Wilson. (Listed at 5'6", 190 lbs.)
  2. This is exactly what Jeff Smith did a few years back when he was managing Sano at New Britain.
  3. I know you didn't exactly say that in so many words, I was merely, um, adding the part you meant to say but left out, yes, that's it.
  4. I want to be clear that I strongly agree with this. A perceived slight being retaliated for with a heater at the body is unacceptable. That doesn't mean I think batters should have free rein with their celebrations. Your opponent deserves to be treated with respect. In my own very humble opinion Bautista did not do that.
  5. Agreed. There are times when a celebration can inadvertently become bad sportsmanship in the joy of the moment. In those cases good sportsmanship dictates that you apologize after the dust settles. Did Bautista ever express any regret whatsoever? And I ask that question honestly. I don't recall if he made any statements along those lines.
  6. Here again, this is an agree-to-disagree moment. I mean the baseball people who are stuck in the old traditions and beliefs of good sportsmanship, understanding that for every winner there's a loser who tried as hard as he could and doesn't deserve to be shown up after losing.
  7. Once again we are in agree-to-disagree territory. Yes, dissing is a scale. But there is still a line where a player's celebration becomes dissing. You say a bat flip is not dissing. I say it is. I'd guess most MLB people agree with me, but you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
  8. How about just because it's not good to go around dissing everyone you succeed against. If I were to treat everyone on these boards the equivalent way Bautista treated Dyson I'd have had posts deleted and received warnings, suspensions and probably a ban. We're just here for entertainment, right? If someone is offended it's just them deciding it was wrong. Why do they get to decide that? Why do they even care?
  9. I still say the needs of Buxton outweigh the needs of the 2016 major league team. If TR and PM feel that AAA is what's best for his development then the Twins can use one of their other players as a placeholder in the meantime.
  10. Do like Kirby Puckett. Do like Joe Carter. Do run the bases. Do pump your fist, do jump up and down. Be happy! Don't stand there, sullenly look at the pitcher and then show him up by flipping your bat.
  11. Of course he was exuberant. And of course any pitcher is bothered more by giving up the home run. But think of it this way. If Dyson had struck out Bautista do you think he would have stood defiantly on the mound for a couple seconds and then flipped his glove in the air? Do you think that would have been good sportsmanship?
  12. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, keeping in mind it's just opinion for both of us. I look at an over-the-top bat flip as showing up the pitcher because I don't think it's a spontaneous display of celebration. And to me, that's where the line is drawn between exuberance and poor sportsmanship. To use another example, I felt a bit uncomfortable with Juan Beringuer's celebration after strikeouts in the 1987 postseason. Doing it the first time was fine because it was spontaneous. Continuing to do it was questionable.
  13. Where baseball has historically drawn the line is not only when the celebration is "look at ME" but especially when the celebration is "look at ME, I beat YOU". Neither Fisk's nor Puckett's celebrations had that component. On the other hand, bat flips have always been viewed in MLB as showing up the pitcher, and I think there's a lot of validity to that point of view.
  14. That's basically the same thing as making one of them a long reliever.
  15. Beyond that, this is a desperate agent talking. If Ricky were my client I'd probably be grasping at straws too.
  16. Those questions would be best addressed to the sales and marketing departments of the teams involved. I don't think anyone on this board knows the answers.
  17. Nobody made that argument, I just threw it in there on my own. As for the question you ask in the first paragraph I don't know the answer but if that's the going rate then that's the going rate.
  18. I'm not a business person but to me it's very easy to understand how a team determines ticket prices. All you need is data, calculus and an actuary. And it doesn't have anything to do with groceries. If your average ticket price is $1 you'll sell out every game but you won't make any money. In fact, if you are selling out every game it means your prices are not high enough. If your average ticket price is $1000 you'll hardly sell any tickets and you won't make any money. Somewhere in between is the average price where you'll take in the most revenue. If that means there are more sales to corporations and fewer to families, that's just the way it goes. It isn't a constitutional right for any family to go to as many games as they want (although it might not be a bad thing if it were). That may sound heartless but I'm in favor of the Twins making as much money as they can because that facilitates a higher player payroll.
  19. Following the lead of the Angels, Reusse once referred to our team as the Minneapolis Twins of Minnesota.
  20. For those too young to remember Harmon Killebrew he and Thome were essentially the same player except for the side of the plate they hit from. Killebrew was 5 inches shorter but just as strong as Thome if not stronger, if that's possible.
  21. Except I'd leave off the exclamation point. He didn't say it loudly or enthusiatically. It was more like being in awe of having seen how hard the ball was hit. And there was a shot of the dugout on replay where they showed the players reacting. There was no audio but Orlando Hudson clearly said, "Holy (fecal matter)!"
  22. Agree. But I still like thinking about this. After all, spring training is a time of unbridled optimism.
  23. Keep in mind that revenue comes from the public, either directly via sales of tickets, concessions, licensed merchandise and so forth or indirectly via advertising, sales of broadcast rights and so forth. The owners only collect and redistribute it (with a small cut for themselves for the trouble ). So if you decry the size of salaries of any entertainers, whether musicians, actors or athletes, then the only way you can make a difference is to ignore the entertainment.
  24. Plouffe is a difficult one because I think his primary value to the Twins is as a trading chip. The advantage of extending him (if the cost is not too high) is that it improves his tradeability, at least in theory. The receiving team would know that he's locked up and would be willing to part with more in return than if there's only a year or two of control. The disadvantage is that if he's not traded the Twins are then locked in with a player who may not fit.
  25. Muy cool indeed!
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