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Article: Sano Going To Let It Eat
prouster replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think this is fair. I'll just chip in that plenty of visibly in-shape guys have had promising careers derailed by injury. It's part of the game. -
Article: Sano Going To Let It Eat
prouster replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Here are a couple of screen shots from MLB.com's reporting. The video was posted yesterday. Presumably the footage is from this week. -
Article: Sano Going To Let It Eat
prouster replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The invented reality is the one in which Sano has flouted orders and shown up to camp in inexcusably bad shape. Someone called it "obese." At least one other has said Sano "looks like an offensive lineman." It's an alternate reality in which he is "basically telling his bosses that he doesn't feel the need to do what they ask of him." Or, you know, that Sano is lazy. This despite obvious photographic and video evidence, anecdotal evidence from posters who have seen him with their own eyes, and news reports that Sano has alternated between Florida and the DR working out since December. It's one thing to say Sano needs to get back into playing shape, but it's another to distort empirical evidence into an unrecognizable picture. For the life of me, I can't follow a line of reasoning that goes, If this hypothetical thing is the case, and if this other hypothetical thing is the case, therefore we can conclude Sano has no discipline and refuses to listen to his bosses. What could it be that's driving this narrative? -
Article: Sano Going To Let It Eat
prouster replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Has he, though? Is there any evidence that suggests the team told him to hit a specific number, and he chose to ignore his bosses? Maybe there is, but I don't think anyone here has come across it. Generally, I don't understand the need to invent realities simply to argue against those realities. By all available photo and video evidence, Sano is about the same size he was last year. I buy that he's not quite in playing shape, but that's a far cry from what a few people here have described in spite of documented visual evidence. But why believe that when someone on Twins Daily says Sano is lazy and obese? I don't know. Maybe you and others can explain it to me. -
Darvish would have been great. He probably would have enabled them to compete for the division. But, he's not in the cards anymore. My point is that there is reason to believe the current rotation has some upside. Heck, if Hughes is actually healthy, maybe he'll contribute something. They shouldn't rely on such a sunny outcome, because it's not likely. If they need to add another 4 WAR pitcher, however, they have the pieces to trade for one. Edit: I don't think they'll get Archer before opening day, but he could definitely be a possibility at the deadline. We know they've already discussed him with Tampa. It could be a matter of assessing what they've got and circling back before making that trade. I think a deadline deal could be comparable to what they'd pay now, given the mix of deadline premium and less team control. We'll see, I guess.
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I thought they should have signed an ace? Now they should have signed a bunch of minor league depth? As some other posters have said, the plan may largely be to let progression candidates actually progress. We get ourselves tied up over acquiring a #1 or 2 starter (whatever that means), but maybe the plan is for Berrios to take a step forward. It's not unreasonable to think he's capable of producing 4-5 fWAR. He produced about 3 fWAR last year as a fairly raw 23 year old. Steamer has him projected at 2.0 fWAR, which of course includes his terrible 2016 season. Fangraphs readers project him for 4.3 fWAR. For comparison, Steamer projects 3.9 fWAR for Darvish, and Fangraphs readers project 3.7. It's possible Berrios could deliver a very similar performance for about $19.5 million fewer. Let's see how it plays out. If Berrios realizes his potential, then they already have the ace we're clamoring for. The addition of Odorizzi would then bolster the middle of the rotation, and the back end could be filled by guys returning from injury and/or promising rookies. If things don't go as planned, they have plenty of prospect capital to acquire someone during the season.
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This is off topic, but stats aren't objective. Ever. They are all formed by humans, which means they are founded on human choice and bias. Statistical analysis is one form among many of narrating the world. The history of science is full of people developing statistics that both reproduce and justify preexisting viewpoints. The statistical concept of regression is one example. It describes an anomaly returning to some mythical norm. Did you know that the concept was invented by Charles Darwin's cousin, Francis Galton--the father of the eugenics movement? In that context, regression gains a sinister aspect, in that it applies standards of normalcy and deviance to human bodies and paves the way for "legitimate" racial hierarchies. Stats are not objective.
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I think the larger point is that there is no such thing as a truly objective statistic. I like the trade. Odorizzi had a tough year, but there is some recent enough success to feel some optimism, especially considering they only gave up Palacios. He probably won't dominate anyone, but hopefully they won't need him to. Let's see if Berrios can take a step forward and be the anchor we're all clamoring for.
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The Twins offer came in under some projections. Darvish signed for less than the prognosticators prognosticated. Therefore, the Twins...chickened out? I don't follow that reasoning.
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Got it. All of these teams are run by liars. Paranoia wins the day.
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I'm not sure what past teams have to do with this offseason. Terry Ryan isn't the GM anymore. And the Twins have made some good moves to shore up what was a pretty lousy bullpen. I'm almost certain they'll do something to address starting pitching. Darvish didn't work out, and that's a bummer, but he's not the only pitcher on the market, nor are they unable to make a trade or two.
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What makes you say they knew their offer would be beat?
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Does that also apply to the front offices in (at least) Milwaukee, Los Angeles, Houston, Texas, and New York? Berardino is reporting that the Twins offer was five years and at least $100 million. That would have easily been the largest free agent contract in franchise history, hardly spineless, and hardly a lie. Even when you play to win, sometimes you just get beat.
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Whatever. I don't see how offering a guy a contract means they lied about pursuing him.
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Free agency is a zero sum game, because a player can only play for one team. The Twins made an offer, and Darvish took a different one. How is that spineless? What does any team have to show for their efforts when a player chooses to sign elsewhere?
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But what about when a position player needs to pitch?
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Article: The Time For A Buxton Extension Is Now
prouster replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It was mainly the first two weeks of last season that pulled down his total numbers. Without those two weeks, his batting line becomes league average. It's hard to overstate how bad he was out of the gate. Edit: Not saying the rest of April and May were good, just that they were tolerable compared to his first handful of games. -
Article: What Do The Twins See In Tyler Kinley?
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In a vacuum I agree, but I don't think Graham and Haley are good examples. Graham's performance in 2015 was at least tolerable for the 25th guy on the roster (4.95 ERA, 4.69 FIP, 7.5 K/9, 3.0 BB/9). Haley threw 18 innings last year, most of them in mop up duty. The alternative was what? Jason Wheeler? A few more innings of Busenitz? I just don't think it's been an actual issue for the Twins. Going forward, though, they'll need all 25 spots to be productive. -
Article: Twins Sign RHP Michael Pineda
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Boy, no wonder we're disappointed if that's the standard. -
Article: Twins Sign Closer Rodney To One-Year Deal
prouster replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I doubt that a guy who has played Major League Baseball for 15 years disrespects the game. I'd wager he's actually quite fond of it. He might even revere it. What body language are you talking about? His delivery? That's the only "body language" I can think of that has anything whatsoever to do with his performance. Good signing. Exciting? Not really, but it's a step in the right direction. The Twins could use more colorful players. -
Article: Twins Sign Closer Rodney To One-Year Deal
prouster replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It's the middle of December, and all the top starting pitchers are still on the board. A lot of the young hitters took steps forward last year, so I don't think it's asanine or naive or Terry Ryan redux or whatever to expect some development among the young pen arms. Should that be the only plan? No. That's why they signed Rodney and Pineda. The former will obviously pitch sooner, but the latter should be available for a late season pennant run. Again, it's the middle of December. They can still sign someone or make some trades with plenty of time to spare before spring training.

