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Is that different than the other misplay that Schaefer had on Kinsler's single in the same inning that they gave him a two-base error on?

I didn't see Gose's triple in the bottom of the 4th. Was it REALLY a ball that should have been a triple or was it one of those that should have been a single but due to slowness it turned into a triple?

I don't know, maybe Pelfrey and Milone, but the bar they are setting has been low :-)

If only it worked like that in any business :-) Timing of contracts, lengths of contracts, the teams that give the contracts, etc. It will never line up like the way you think it should. Free agent prices are going to go through the roof and continue to do that. FA salaries aren't going down.

Gose's triple in the bottom of the 4th. Was it REALLY a ball that should have been a triple or was it one of those that should have been a single but due to slowness it turned into a triple?

I think there may come a time, and it may be soon, where we need to all adjust what we think a player is worth due to all the money in the game now

Did you read the whole article? Cause they said he's been above average. In any event, just giving you info as I find it buddy. Not at all saying you are wrong. I like his contract better than the ones we've signed recently, excluding Hughes.

trying to pull a ball he shouldn't be?

Time for Torii to move over to CF

I went to the bar at lunch to watch a bit of the game, I only got to see the half inning where Nolasco was forced out. There was at least one play there turned in by our CF that turned a single into a triple. And I think I missed another OF misplay (or play that would have been made by a better OF). Anyone who is watching care to go over that half inning?

It really does matter what one considers league average in regards to what numbers one is looking at when making that determination. Then one has to consider how much growth is left in the player He's not the caliber pitcher that those other guys are, but in fairness, their contracts were/are longer and worth way more overall. No one was going to give him Scherzer money or Kershaw money overall. On top of that, I envision way more names entering that zone here soon with all the money being thrown around. So, I mean, I get what you are saying and not saying you are wrong at all, but the article I showed sort of explained how this kind of contract was coming if he saw the open market. Here's another article about the signing: 'Porcello has been consistently above average, topping two wins in each of the last four seasons. His 2.7 WAR from last year ranked 28th in the American League, but his 5.5 WAR over the last two years is 17th, and his 8.1 fWAR over the past three seasons ranks 14th in the AL during that time. Through his Age-25 season, Porcello has pitched 1073 1/3 innings after debuting as a 20-year-old in 2009. If not for a rough period in 2010 when he was sent down to the minors for a few weeks, Porcello would have been eligible for free agency after last season. Over the past 20 years, only 11 pitchers have pitched more than 900 innings through their Age-25 season like Porcello and had a WAR above two in their Age-25 season. Clayton Kershaw, Madison Bumgarner, Felix Hernandez and Matt Cain have yet to play through their Age-30 seasons, leaving six players for future comparison.' http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/red-sox-lock-up-rick-porcello/

He saw a very slight jump in FIP from 2013 to 2014, after seeing his FIP drop four straight seasons, but he also added almost 30 innings pitched, breaking the 200 IP mark for the first time.

Porcello is young for a person with as much time in the league he has (only a year older than Alex Meyer), and he has steadily improved. I think many are expecting him to keep improving a bit and with salaries continuing to rise, it's no surprising he got what he got.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/rick-porcellos-upcoming-enormous-payday/ This article was written almost two months ago and makes some sense.

Last year there were 30 RF who had 400 or more PA, and he was 11th in wRC+. So upper half and almost top 1/3. Go Hunter!

Sooner than planned? Do you know the exact season this team plans to be slightly more competitive or just competitive in general? Do you know when our 'most competitive time frame' will be and how long it will last be? Serious questions, because you make it sound like it's a given fact the good seasons are coming two or three years from now. I ask because now you're saying it's two or three years away. I remember when some people who consistently defend the FO were telling all the 'negative nellies' to be patient because 2015 was the year we'd be competitive and 2016 we'd be serious contenders. Now it's being being moved back two or three years to just be competitive? And you think people who kept being told to be patient for 2015 shouldn't have issues with having the expected competitive years moved back and back? That's 7 or more seasons you are now talking about for a team that needed a new ballpark to stay competitive. The problem with the argument you provided is that the expected competitive years keep being moved back and this seems to be no problem for some. For some, it seems totally acceptable and for those who don't find that long of a wait to be very acceptable, they are somehow 'short-sighted' in their complaints.

I'll go ahead and delete it, but gotta say, what also gets old is seeing some posters defend EVERYTHING this FO does at EVERY turn in ANY possible way at ANY time the FO is criticized. And then, to boot, they get to slam anyone who says anything negative with no noticeable consequence. Whole threads can be created and allowed to exist for the purpose of slamming the actions of people labeled 'negative nellies'.

BEST. POST. EVER!!!!

Lucy (Twins FO), the ball (shiny prospects), and Charlie Brown (the fans). :-)

I saw that. It's where I learned that :-)

It was powerless but hardly feeble was my point. And it's not like he was his normal self against righties and like that versus lefties. He wasn't himself pretty much across the board. Maybe all he has to prove is that the concussion symptoms are gone and that he's healthy. One season doesn't make it a trend it makes it, at present, an outlier type of season. If he has another year like last year that's when the worrying ends, but I think Mauer's history of hitting against both lefties and righties speaks for itself. He's not going to be seen batting 7th.

The funniest part is that Bryant isn't part of the players union. So when they are pushing for him (and players somewhat comparable) to be able to be on the major league squad, they are actively hurting an actual member of their union.

In 2013 he hit the carp out of lefties. His lefty/righty splits were practically even. Even last year, Mauer wasn't feeble against lefties. He hit .268 versus lefties with a .349 OBP. He's not going to bat that low anytime soon.

I already explained why it was perfectly reasonable to ask Hunter about it in the news conference. If you want to continue this discussion best if by PM and not here. We were told to stay on topic already by a moderator.

So you're saying it's not a personal attack on an umpire to suggest the reason he supposedly didn't do his job is because he had reservations to a restaurant or a concert? The concert to play part is SPECIFICALLY about West cause many baseball fans know he does the country music thing. Those comments were specific to West. So yeah, they were personal. Don't need to look further, they are right there. Unless I'm misreading what you're saying there.