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2015 Projections and Rankings: Joe Mauer
jimmer replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Did that price paid make the Twins continue to drop payroll? No? They continued to underspend anyway. They could have spent more, they chose not to. Mauer's salary didn't stop them The Twins almost doubled their worth this past offseason. Did it really hurt them? No. In 2012 and 2013 combined he was worth a hair over 46M based on what 1 WAR would cost on the open market. The assumption that the Twins would have gone and spent his salary on some great player from outside the organization just doesn't float. It's not in their nature and his salary hasn't stopped them from keeping anyone else in the organization who deserved what he got. His salary has not hurt this team at all. And by the time any of these supposed stud prospects we have hit the time in their career where they require big money, he'll be off the books. And that's before we talk about what signing the hometown guy means outside the lines in PR and other value, like ticket sales etc. His salary doesn't hurt this team a bit. If he continues to play like 2014, which I doubt, that would be bad for sure. But since he's only had two seasons like that and 2012 and 2013 were pretty darn good, i imagine he'll be much better than 2014 Joe.- 94 replies
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2015 Projections and Rankings: Joe Mauer
jimmer replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't think the FO actually believed one season way out of the norm for him in regards to HRs was what he'd continue to be. At least I hope they would be smart enough not to think that. Getting his 3rd batting title wouldn't have been an outlier for him, he had one the year before and two times in the last three years going into 2009. A third batting title (in a 4 year span), which is three more batting titles than any other AL catcher in history, he still gets that contract. If not from the Twins, from someone else.- 94 replies
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The more I read about the Twins finishing last ...
jimmer replied to Monkeypaws's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I wonder how he can call himself a pessimist after what he wrote in the rest of his post. Post was very optimistic. Overly so, some might say. Certainly not pessimistic. At least an average defense. A pretty good top 3 with depth. Quality depth as opposed to AAA filler. At least near an even win/loss record. -
The more I read about the Twins finishing last ...
jimmer replied to Monkeypaws's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
'I don't know about not understanding them per say,' He said he didn't understand my post not that he disagrees with the way the metrics are created or their accuracy or anything like that. And they say it takes multiple years to determine a players actual talent, but that doesn't mean what was put out there as what the players did was wildly wrong or anything. It still tells us what happened last year, more or less. All the teams are evaluated the same, so even if one doesn't trust the methods, the rankings should still matter. And I'm not sure how much of an upgrade Hunter will be over Arcia or Arcia will be over Hammer. Hunter has been really bad the last couple years. And we have to wonder about how much shortstop will be downgraded. -
Watching the Orioles/Pirates game on MLB Network and the announcers just got down saying, and I quote, 'We know that all of the Sabermetricians have put out numbers over the last few years showing how strike zones have continued to decrease in size' And then they said that maybe the umpires and league have read that info and decided to increase the zone. The announcers said they have talked about this all ST on their broadcasts. Thing is, the SABR people have shown the exact opposite to be true. That the zone has increased each year over the last 5 years. And the league has come out and talked about decreasing the zone, not increasing it. WOW!
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The more I read about the Twins finishing last ...
jimmer replied to Monkeypaws's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I can't help that you don't understand metrics that have been around for quite some time. Which traditional stats do you want to use for defense? Oh, and the eyes themselves were easily able to see that the defense was horrendous last year too. Slow OF, bad routes, lackadaisical play, players playing out of their actual positions (like IF in the OF) and nothing done this offseason improved that, except the move of Santana to shortstop, which may have downgraded shortstop defense. -
The more I read about the Twins finishing last ...
jimmer replied to Monkeypaws's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
The team overall defense is every bit as bad as advertised. 2nd to last in DRS., easily the worst FIP-ERA rate, 25th in UZR. Then they add a almost 40 year old RF, move their RF to LF, and perhaps downgrade their shortstop defense. Not even close to average, not as constructed right now. -
I don't think a person has to be one that 'always chooses to be negative' to clearly see that this team was not good last year. Seems to be an unnecessary jab at people who seem to have issues with a team that has lost 90+ the last four years and can say, 'hey, maybe there's a reason for that. main reason being, the team isn't that good.' Shouldn't the negative outweigh the positive when a team is that bad for that long?
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'If I want to be charitable to the Twins this spring, I say their decision-makers really are convinced they were a good team last year but caught some bad breaks.' I SERIOUSLY hope they don't actually think that.
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2015 Projections and Rankings: Joe Mauer
jimmer replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I seriously doubt the FO actually believed that what they saw Joe do in 2009 was the Joe they'd continue to see. And, because of that, I doubt it played too much in what his contract was. I imagine if he had just a normal year for him he still would have gotten paid right about what he did. What some fans thought he'd do after seeing his 2009 is a different story. Outlying seasons are rarely what a player is going to continue to do. For me, he's had two disappointing seasons and both were because of injury (2011) or feeling the effects of injuries/concussion (2014). And all players get hurt. he is not unique in that regard. A lot of people point to games and/or played at catcher but part of that is on the manager too. Part of that, at least in the last few years, was Morneau not being able to play and Mauer being the best option for 1B, or not having a great DH and moving Mauer to DH wasn't a detriment in DH production. I mean, yes he's been hurt. no doubt, but he was also primarily a catcher and most years his games played were in line with what you'd expect from a catcher. I have zero doubt he could have played more games and more games at catcher too.- 94 replies
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2015 Projections and Rankings: Joe Mauer
jimmer replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It's even sillier to read my post and assume i was upset that you said Oliva is better. I said I don't understand what the argument would be to suggest he is, besides HR. I said, 'Mauer isn't below Oliva, and I'm not sure what argument would say he is.' And I'll also say, if Mauer got traded today (assuming he would agree and could be) it wouldn't bother me at all...I mean besides the talent we'd lose. I am not a Mauer fan, other than he's really good most of the time so it helps our team. He's not my favorite player on the team. He's probably not even in my top 50 favorite players playing right now. I also think too many people like to throw around the words: upset, ridiculous and silly too much when describing people's point's of views, but hey,whatever.- 94 replies
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2015 Projections and Rankings: Trevor Plouffe
jimmer replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Yup, #1 3B in the division. .260/.335/.430. wRC+ 115. -
2015 Projections and Rankings: Joe Mauer
jimmer replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I want the guys I believe will I have the best OBPs and wRC+ getting as many PAs as possible. That's almost always been Mauer on our team (of course 2014 is there and it happened and it's the most recent). He also posted a wRC+ of 125 in the 2nd half, so he's coming back around IMO. I think people need to have a better understanding of what is worth 23M in today's game (for example in 2012 and 2013 he was worth 46M combined based on what 1 WAR bought you on the open market) and that there is more than one way to create/produces runs besides what we were told forever. And I'm not sure your best hitter bats 3rd anymore. :-)- 94 replies
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2015 Projections and Rankings: Joe Mauer
jimmer replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
OPS+ takes era into account. It's why, for those who like OPS, OPS+ is so good. Mauer's career OPS+ is better than all the comp players listed. Do you show something different in the time frames you've listed? And, of course, none of them endured the physical challenges of playing catcher. Mauer isn't below Oliva, and I'm not sure what argument would say he is. Besides the HR.- 94 replies
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2015 Projections and Rankings: Brian Dozier
jimmer replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I'll go .250/.345/.420. wRC+ 115. And his defense continuing to improve as he gets more and more comfy with the position. -
2015 Projections and Rankings: Joe Mauer
jimmer replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
as long as he continues to have the best OBP on the team he deserves to be in the top half of the lineup. And I'd like to see if 2014 is the Mauer we have now rather than 2012 or 2013 Mauer before dropping him.- 94 replies
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2015 Projections and Rankings: Joe Mauer
jimmer replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
thanks for looking up what you did.- 94 replies
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Strongest lineup to start the season: Santana Dozier Mauer Vargas Plouffe Hunter Arcia Suzuki Shaefer/Robinson Later might be: Dozier Hunter Mauer Vargas Plouffe Arcia Santana Suzuki Shaefer/Robinson
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Heck, in Parmelle's case, at least he was drafted and played a good chunk of OF in the minors. Not CF of course, but at least OF. Santana had like 25 games in CF in the minors.
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2015 Projections and Rankings: Joe Mauer
jimmer replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Thanks for the info and nice WAR comp, do you know fWAR's same comparison? And Carew's- 94 replies
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2015 Projections and Rankings: Joe Mauer
jimmer replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
A lot of people want to make sure it's perfect context (which is pretty much impossible to attain) only in so much as it hurts Mauer's case. Now we can wonder how close it would have been if those guys also had to play catcher.- 94 replies
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2015 Projections and Rankings: Joe Mauer
jimmer replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Where was Gwynn's and Boggs (corner IF and corner OF)?- 94 replies
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2015 Projections and Rankings: Joe Mauer
jimmer replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think you are still missing the point. Maybe go back and read the discussion between Chief and I. We were just talking about the career slashline Mauer has. IMO, the slashline itself is awesome. I said if Joe can have his career slashline this year, that will be awesome. Or not, depending on point of view. He said that slashline isn't awesome. So I brought up similiar type HOF hitters who had those slashlines and still managed to be HOFers. Players most consider awesome players. Except Joe, apparently.- 94 replies
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2015 Projections and Rankings: Joe Mauer
jimmer replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
We also might want to take into account Mauer did it while enduring the rigors of playing catcher while Carew, Oliva, Boggs and Gwynn didn't have to do that. In any event, thse guys were brought up because I talked about how if Joe could get back to being Joe with his career slashline that'd be awesome Joe. Then it was pointed out his slashline isn't awesome. So these HOF players (minus Oliva) were mentioned. Similar type of slashlines. Similar types of hitters.- 94 replies
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