you remember Mussina spent his prime years in Baltimore, right? And it is not like his winning% was higher in NY than it was in Baltimore, cause it wasn't. Personally,I couldnt care at all about wins and losses. I am not the one that argued Glavines win totals should matter (or that anybodys win totals should matter,period), but if it does, then winning% should matter too when comparing pitchers. Certainly if total wins matter, total losses should also be looked at. Only 13 HOF starting pitchers have a better winning % than Mussina. And I am not sure anyone argued Mussina deserved to be a first ballot HOFer, just that Glavine didnt deserve to be and that Mussina was better. While Mussina MAY have gotten more run support in his career (and I am not sure that is true) he also pitched in the harder league (where DHs bat instead of pitchers), in the toughest division against superior lineups, and still had a better FIP, better ERA+, better WHIP, better K% and better BB%. And yeah, Blyleven should have been a slam dunk HOFer. Then again, I have always said that.