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It's in the Other Baseball thread for a reason. It's baseball news and a lot of people discuss HOF inclusion all the time.
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The interesting thing to me is that, as manager, Rose's Reds came in 2nd in the NL West every year from 85-88. But the first place team was different every year. Those Reds just couldn't quite get over the hump, I guess. And then Lou Pinella takes over and they win the WS in 1990. I have no idea if those Reds teams should've won more but it doesn't look good at all.
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Yeah, the most depressing thing about sports is how many former athletes lose all or most of their money.
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Not really a shocker but OTL has documentation proving that Rose bet on baseball not just as a manager but also as a player. http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13114874/notebook-obtained-lines-shows-pete-rose-bet-baseball-player-1986 So, if you've been paying attention (and who can blame you if you weren't), Rose's denials have gone from I never bet on baseball to I never bet while playing to I only bet when I was a manager to I never bet on the Reds to I only bet on the Reds to win I think the only thing left to un-cover is evidence that he bet against the Reds.
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And naturally the Twins have a .600 winning percent in NY over Gardy's last 3 years.
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Fair enough. I like Berrios a lot and I think he can become a really solid part of the rotation. I think over the last few years, we've had so many 8th and 9th starters pitch for us, we forgot how solid real back end starters and #3 starters can be and think every pitching prospect should be an ace. And Berrios does seem to possess some of the intangibles that generally lead players to exceed their ceilings - durability, command, high baseball IQ and competitiveness.
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Well, yeah. That's what all the prospect evaluating is. "This guy profiles as an ace," "this guy should be a lead off hitter," "this guy is a lights out closer." It's all based on expectations of the tools the guy is showing. I think Sickel's article did a pretty good job of explaining that.
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Actually, I think we are under rating him. Look at how well he's hitting after shaking off one year of rust. I'd be thrilled if they called him up to DH the rest of the year.
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Radke was a #3 stuff wise, he also significantly out-pitched expectations. Josh Beckett, for example, significantly under pitched expectations. http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/8/7/3226335/defining-1-2-3-4-5-starters Other sites have similar definitions.
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-sigh- Trying to calm expectations. His ceiling is #2, that doesn't mean he's likely to reach it, that's just what his ceiling is. Jayson Parks loved him and he's a scout for the Cubs now. He thought he'd be a solid #3 with avg or lower strike out rates in the majors. BP just had a scouting report on him and he grades out as a #3 if things continue to develop for him. Obviously, some #3 type pitchers pitched a lot better than that (Brad Radke) but the expectations on this guy are way out of line. He could develop into a #2 stud but we'd be lucky if manages to have Scott Baker's career, too.
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Does that amount include the amount the Twins could go over without penalty?
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I agree with blair - Twins fans are way overrating Berrios. At his best, he could be a #2 but he could still end up in the bullpen. I like him a lot but he's not the next Johan or Pedro.
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I don't trust Sale to stay healthy throughout his contract so I wouldn't trade for him.
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http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=26706 Intro paragraph, rest behind paywall: Our generation of baseball fans and analysts might have been wrong about Jack Morris. Let that sink in for a moment. We yelled and bickered and picked Morris’s career apart, and we won: Morris is not in the Hall of Fame, and if he ever gets there, it will be on the strength of a Veterans Committee vote, not a BBWAA ballot. We told the world, in no uncertain terms, that Morris was an unimpressive compiler, a workhorse without distinctive merit. We scoffed at efforts to lionize him for his October achievements, pointing out (fairly, I think) that his heroics in 1984 and 1991 should be weighed against his abject failures in 1987, 1992, and 1993. Most of all, we contended that his high ERA and FIP, albeit in a huge number of innings, marked him mostly as a durable pitcher, and not as a truly great one. We might have been right, of course. But it looks a lot like we were wrong.
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Game Thread, Twins @ Cardinals, 6/16 @ 12:45pm CT
gunnarthor replied to sampleSizeOfOne's topic in Archived Game Threads
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You can't ban a team from the post season in a professional league, it destroys the competitiveness for the rest of the league.
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I don't think they can do a post season ban but they could take away draft picks, I suppose. And a few people will be fired, I'm sure.
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Very interesting. Looks like they think the Astros GM, who used to work for them, had "taken their idea and proprietary baseball information to the Astros" when creating the Astros computer databases. I love this kind of stuff. I suppose MLB will have to do something to the Cards but if the Astros did steal the Cards database system, do they get hit too?
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My bad, I thought the other guy was in the PCL for some reason.
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I don't think this is a time to compare season stats in different minor leagues when Sano literally missed a full year. That he is hitting this well, after shaking off the rust, is amazing and really bodes well for his future at the ML level. He's an elite hitter.
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Over his last 37 games, Sano is hitting .309/.388/.574 with 21 walks against 36k. Those numbers are pretty close to what Buxton had hit over his last 42 minor league games. I'd certainly be willing to let him DH over Vargas at this point.
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http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=26653 "At the plate, Buxton has lightning quick (and strong) wrists that allow him to get through the zone as fast as any prospect in baseball. This, along with excellent balance, plus pitch recognition skills and the ability to get extension to hit the ball the other way, gives him a chance for a plus-plus hit tool when all is said and done. He’s a smart and patient hitter who isn’t afraid to wait for his pitch and will draw more than his fair share of walks. Though that patience can sometimes put him into two-strike counts, and because he doesn’t “shorten up” in those situations, he will put up his fair share of strikeouts as well. Once Buxton reaches base, be prepared to see an awful lot of pickoff attempts as the outfielder possesses elite speed, an easy 80 on the 20-80 scouting scale. His ability to read pitchers has seen significant improvement, and it shouldn’t surprise anyone if he ended up as a perennial stolen base leader in the American League—assuming he can get on base enough to run. While the hit tool is more advanced, Buxton’s power is still being tapped into, though he’s far from a slap-hitter at the plate right now. The swing is fairly flat, but Buxton has vastly improved his ability to transfer his weight. The combination of that and his plus bat speed gives Buxton at least a potential above-average power tool. His wheels also give him a chance to turn singles into doubles, and doubles into triples, so that always helps the ol’ slugging percentage as well."
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Don't worry about stats like SIERRA or fip in the low minors. Klaw said they aren't trustworthy at that competition level.
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I posted this in a different thread but basically Stewart is really raw. As a TX football star, he only worked on baseball 3 or 4 months a year but was still the best prep arm in his draft class. Keith Law said in a chat that he was more a thrower than a pitcher when drafted and that the Twins were doing a hell of a job with him and not to worry about the strike outs. He said that earlier this year. So, for now, I think we should look more at scouting reports than stats on him and hope he stays healthy.
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MINNESOTA TWINS PROMOTE BYRON BUXTON!
gunnarthor replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Astro fans are pretty bitter about his call up. "I want to see him fail just so everyone knows Correa is definitively the best prospect in the majors." "Buxton Will Be Sucking Exhaust of Correa His Entire Career." "Ill never forget draft day He was pouting on national tv. He looked like my daughter about to throw a fit after Correa was selected. Then when the Twins picked him he had a look like he couldn’t care less."
