I'm assuming this year is going to be awful, I should have made that clear, I thought I had, but I guess not.....but again, I'm done. Not much for me to add one way or the other, and we just won't agree......I do agree with the idea that trading guys for other guys counts, but I thought I addressed that when I said, they are able to do that because they are willing to stink (my words and belief) this year.....if they wanted to compete this year, I think it would be harder to make those trades for minor leaguers. But again, I've already said that, and I'm not sure what new i can say. I'm not ignoring anyting, all of what you posted was attempted to be addressed. If I failed in that, my apologies.