How is it impatient to want a good product, if you are paying a lot of money to see that product? Never understood that, frankly.....as for Gardy, there are studies in the NFL that show that most coaches' records really start to fall off after 10 years (and yes, you can site plenty of anectdotes where that is not true, does not matter, if you look at the entire sample, it's true), but I"m not sure there is or is not a similar study in baseball. I've always felt Gardenhire must be good at the non-game aspects of being a manager, because the Twins generally have a clean clubhouse, no major issues, and were generally successful under his tenure. So, he's probably doing something right. I've always felt he was a mediocre in game manager. Sacrifice bunts early in games, "productive outs", batting guys second that had no business being there, refusing to move Mauer up to the 2 hole.....he always seems stuck in a world of the past to me. Also, it seems like few young guys come up and really grow under him and his coaches (I know some of you will disagree on this, I'm not interested in arguing over it today). All in all, he seems like he's a good guy to work for, seems like a super nice guy, but who is just ok at the strategy part. I'm kind of indifferent on his future. I'm much more interested in Ryan's future (if we are talking off the field stuff), because it is his philosophy and approach that will either build this team quickly, slowly, or not at all.