Tubby's teams in his previous job got worse and worse. He finished in the bottom of the conference every year here, pretty much. what makes you think he's good, exactly? As for Gardy, let's see what happens this year. I have little doubt that he and Ryan are stuck in a past of gut feel and "Twins way" that has been passed by in the last 10+ years by teams embracing math and analytics to develop optimal strategies. (funny, I assume those of you that hate that in baseball, love it when it comes to bulding airplanes and running normal businesses) But, I'm willing to wait and see if things are actually changing or not. But if the small things look like yesterday, and he picks on young players in public, and he puts bad hitters in the 2 hole, and he uses the bullpen in a 1990s way, well, then its likely not much has change record wise, or growth wise, and then I'll criticize Gardy and Ryan.