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The Santana to Prielipp comparison is apples to oranges. Santana was never exclusively in the pen. Even in year 1 when he was only on the roster because they had to keep him or lose him, he got 5 starts. He was then a mix of pen and starts for a couple of years. Santana also had good health, unlike Prielipp. At 21, Santana had almost 300 minor league innings. Prielipp at 24, has 112 innings. Move Prielipp to the pen and he is likely 27 if they transition him back and build up his innings. Not likely. Santana was in the Ryan, Kelly, Gardenhire era when the Twins things like break a pitcher in from the pen and move him to the rotation. Under Falvey, moves to the pen are permanent.
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I'll get on my Prielipp soap box once again. I'm dead set against moving him to the pen. 1. He projects as a top of the rotation starter and the focus should be on getting him there. Top starters are more important than closers. They need to build his innings since he has pitched very few. That's hard to do in the pen. 2. When this regime moves someone to the pen, they almost never move back. Duran was supposed to be a temporary move. He wanted to start again after his first year in the pen. The Twins said no. 3. If the Twins were in position to contend it might be worth moving arguably their best pitching prospect to the pen. They aren't contending. This year is about using place holders until top prospects are ready. There is no point in rushing Prielipp to the majors via the pen.
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What Comes Next for Twins and Joe Ryan?
TJSweens replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The Pohlad's are surpassing themselves as cheapskates on this one. $6.35M for an all star starting pitcher is an extreme bargain and the Twins are haggling over $500K. At the same time, they are minimizing his trade value. They should have worked out a multi-year deal by now. -
Eric Wagaman Might Be the Next Kyle Garlick
TJSweens replied to Cody Schoenmann's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Stats like WAR and fWAR are so overrated. Rooker is an every day right handed power bat. Over the last 3 years he has amassed 108 HR, an OPS+ of 131 with 2 All Star appearances, a silver slugger and a top 10 MVP finish. But, hey...we might have the next Kyle Garlick, right?- 48 replies
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Because Prielipp needs to be stretched out. At 25 time is getting shorter to do that.
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Johan was a unique instance. As a rule 5, he needed to be kept on the roster for a year. The he was called up to team with deep, veteran rotation. Johan was also younger and had more minor league innings under his belt. As I said before, when this regime moves pitchers to the pen, they don't move back.
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First of all, thanks for the Wander Javier hat tip. As for Prielipp, I don't think 25 is really young for a pitcher who is playing catch-up due to injuries. He only has 112 innings in 3 minor league seasons. He needs to build his pitch count and innings in a way that can't be achieved in the pen. Other starters around the league have broken in as relievers, but with the Twins these moves are almost permanent. It would be one thing if the Twins expected to contend, but come on, they have acquired Jackson, Bell and Wagaman. I'd much rather see guys like Raya, Morris and Lewis move to the pen.
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Houston: sounds like Wander Javier. It was said Javier's SS defense was so good that sometimes opponent's runs actually came off the board when the ball was hit to him. The problem was that his bat had the same impact on his own team's offense. The Twins were waiting for projected hitting growth that never happened. Jeffers: Twins painted themselves in a corner here. He has all the leverage in contract negotiations and his trade value is compromised by being a rental player. Lee: drafted as a fully developed bat that would quickly transition to the majors. Not seeing it. Terrible defensive player. Ober: I would trade him. His value took a hit last year and I have a feeling it will only get worse. Prielipp: move to the pen? NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! He still projects as a front line starter. He needs to be stretched out even if means delaying his major league debut. Temporary moves to the pen always wind up being permanent with this team. Don't do it.
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Minnesota’s Three Unluckiest Hitters in 2025
TJSweens replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I always roll my eyes when people try to use advanced analytics to say a player isn't as bad as he really is.- 27 replies
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Don't forget that he can't field. Another 5 tooless player.
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Minnesota Twins Roster Project and Organizational Depth
TJSweens replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
This kind of stuff is why I place very little stock in WAR and projected WAR.- 81 replies
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Minnesota Twins Roster Project and Organizational Depth
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I'm sorry, but awarding three roster spots to players because they are out of options is unacceptable. They either come to ST and out perform their competition or kick them to the curb. Julien and Outman have devoted the last two years to proving that they are not major league ball players. Why are they being projected onto a major league roster?- 81 replies
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I would imagine his slider was impacted by his hip injury like everything else. The bottom line is if Ober's velocity loss is permanent, it's pretty well game over. If that's the case, a cutter isn't going to make his fastball/sweeper play any better. I would still like to see Ober moved for bullpen help.
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5 Ways to Remember the Twins’ 2025 Farm System
TJSweens replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I remember when Twins fans were supposed to be giddy over the thought of a rotation of Brusdar Graterol, Jordan Balazovic, Jhuon Duran and Griffin Jax with Jorge Alcala closing games. I've followed the Twins minor league prospects since I was a kid in the late 60's. I'm always hoping hoping for the next class of 82. The problem is that a lot things seem to happen on those last couple of rungs of the ladder.- 28 replies
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First off, I wouldn't characterize overall regular seasons during the Falvey era as strong. Second, after years of wasting high draft picks on slow footed college strike out machines like Larnach, Wallner and Sabato, the Twins are finally shifting the focus to high end athletes like Jenkins and Culpeper. If this current wave of prospects and trade acquisitions doesn't turn the corner for the Twins, then Falvey needs to go. Frankly, he should already be gone. His tenure has been an abject failure.
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David McCarty was a bust. He was widely disliked in the clubhouse. He knew everything there was to know about hitting and wasn't going to listen to anyone. Kelly was banking on Ortiz to be the 1B in 99 and Ortiz showed up to spring training 25 pounds overweight. Later on Ortiz came out with the bs story about Kelly and Gardy not letting him hit home runs to cover his steroid infused uptick in power. Todd Walker didn't want to spend any time on his defense. Ironically, he had his best year under Kelly. The man who can't relate to younger players players helped develop Hrbek, Laudner, Gaetti, Bush, etc. in the minors. Knoblach loved him when he came up. Latroy often talks about how Kelly taught him to prepare and conduct himself like a major leaguer when he came up.
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You don't view the Twins as a rebuild team? I think your making a lot of assumptions about Mayo at 24 with just over 300 major league ab.
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I disagree. Bell is a short term place holder who can easily be shifted to DH. Mayo would be brought in to be a long term piece. The Twins don't currently have a long term 1B option.
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I like the Mayo option better than Bell. Clemens and Julian are terrible options at 1B unless the goal is to sustain a 72 win threshold. I think Julian has proven that he is not a major league ball player. If Ober's loss in velo is permanent, which is possible at his age, it is a good time to move on from him and Mayo would be a good return.
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