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Extending players like these is a big risk. I have no idea what kind of deal it would take for any of them. I'm not saying we should extend any or all of them because I simply don't know enough about all that goes into making it happen. But for an organization that apparantly has decided it is not going to carry a well above average payroll to compete, I think taking these kind of risks are necessary to build a championship caliber team. I get that it won't always work, sometimes it will fail spectacularly. As a fan, I will live with that because I will be to console myself with thought that they have a plan and are making a real effort to implement it. Don't feel like I can console myself with that thought now, but will be watching and hoping that some sort of real plan will be revealed over the next few months.
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I get offering Larnach arbitration and signing him. Until the FO decides it's time for one or more of the top tier outfield prospects to be given a shot, who else we do we have? Larnach is an established player in MLB, with a pretty well established floor. Would we like a better player there, of course. Have Outman/Roden, or even Martin, established themselves as better mlb player, no. They all have been given the chance to, but haven't yet. Given that the FO has decided our top outfield prospects need more time in minors, keeping Larnarch and giving Outman and Martin a shot to establish themselves before the prospects get their shot makes sense. Sending Roden down makes sense because he has options. He'll get his chance when injuries and/or performance issues arrise. Larnach is not so easily dispensible until Roden, Outman or Martin prove themselves to be better at the MLB level, or the FO decides it's time to give a prospect a shot. We can argue about if it's time to give the prospects a shot. There are good arguments either way. But imo, there really isn't a log jam until the FO deems a prospect is ready, and until then, Larnach has a legit place on the roster.
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Congrads! We reached a milestone! This is the 100th article written on this subject this offseason, all saying the same things, followed by comments saying all the same things! That horse is cooked! Thank God spring training starts Thursday!
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I hope every outfielder we have rocks this spring early summer. It be an embarassment of riches, from which we could trade to fill other needs. Everyone excelling won't happen of course, but maybe enough will to make a quality outfield, plus a little trade bait. Novel idea I know...letting them play it out before writing anyone off.
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- alan roden
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In terms of fan morale, Keaschall and Jenkins would be the best move suggested. Plus, it actually makes good sense. Mid market, low payroll teams need to take chances like this in hopes of hitting jackpots.
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- joe ryan
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I agree. But on a positive note, isn't at least a little nice that someone can talk about "our strength of pitching" and "our in-house surplus of young arms" without being laughed out of the room?
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- taylor rogers
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I share the frustration of not addressing glaring needs at the MLB level, but I don't I don't get all the hand-wringing about moves like this. Trying to improve at the margins is an improvement, trying to improve minor league rosters is improvement and always neccessary. I imagine both clubs are trying to catch lightning in a bottle hoping to get some positive MLB contibution from their side of the trade. I also imagine 90% the time neither club gets that. We'll see, but why get worked up about it.
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Can't see it happening. Can't really see anything major happening with roster. Maybe a trade of Larnach for reliever depth, maybe signing a depth reliever, that's it. Going to run out converted starters (who knows who) as late inning guys. Not neccessarily a bad thing. Could be pretty rough, but who knows, if everything clicks, could be a enough to be in running for playoffs. If not, alot of young players will get mlb experience. Seems like the defination of a transition year.
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Lewis is the answer at 1st nobody talks about. He has the potential to be a plus bat there. Easier to transiton 3rd to 1st than it is for an outfielder, and he's athletic enough to do it. Shores up a position with little organiztional depth. Sure, it creates an opening on left side of infield, but we have some talent developing there. Might need a placeholder for a year or two until that talent is ready, but at least the talent is there, unlike 1st base.
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I don't get why there is so little consideration of moving Lewis to first. He's going to get played somewhere everyday when healthy to see if he sinks or swims. He's athletic enough, and already plays the infield, that his transition to 1st will be better/easier for him than an outfielder. If he succeeds, he's there longterm, checking that box. We will have developed some young talent, checking that box. If he succeeds, he will hit like a 1st baseman should, checking that box. So who plays third then? We do have developing talent on left side of infield. Brooks Lee makes most sense to me, let him sink or swim there next year. SS then? Culpepper. If front office believes letting him develop at major leagues will seriously hurt is development, than an uninspiring stopgap SS via free agency/trade. We have left side infielders developing in minors, so if we're going to have a placeholder somewhere in infield, should be at SS/3B instead of 1st where there is a lack of organization depth. An infield of Lee, Lewis, Culpepper and Keachall doesn't seem all that hopeless to me. Unless, of course, we move Lewis to catcher. That opens up a whole new can of worms. Just kidding!
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If we're going to keep Ryan/Lopez and try to piece together a bullpen (no to Pressly though) to compete for playoff spot, Naylor maybe. Everywhere else let the kids play. If not, let more kids play.
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Right now the state of the Twins is so, so, bleak. I want to be positive, but all I feel about the organization at this point is disappointment and despair. For this fan, knowing payroll is going to be limited, the only scenario that is going to keep me interested is one where Lopez and Ryan are kept, and a massive youth movement everywhere else where possible. Larnach would need to be moved to make room. Jenkins needs to play at majors everyday. So does our next best outfield prospect. Wallner to DH/fourth outfielder. Best shortstop prospect gets a shot as our everyday shortstop. Lewis at third, gets another shot. keachall of course at second. Lee is primary infield utility. Best utility prospect gets second utility spot. First base? Who the hell knows, go with your best first base prospect. Jeffers at catcher tutoring best catcher prospect, no matter how young. Buxton in center. If he ends up injured or wanting out (understandable), next best prospect. Lopez, Ryan, Ober, Matthews, SWR, plus all that minor league depth as starters. Sands and Topa get retained, Funderburk gets a chance to earn a spot. Festa and Prileipp get their shots at the backend. Next best minor league prospect gets another spot (Raya?). Fill in the rest with minor leaguers/cheap vets. That team could lose a lot of games, but would have a shot at being competative in a lot of games. and I'd watch that team, even if loses a bunch. Salary dumping Lopez and Ryan and replacing them with more youth probably would have me checking the box score the next day rather than watching. Dumping them and replacing with a bunch of cheap vets/journeymen would have me checking in on them every week or two, at best. Twins management, please, please, at least put an interesting team on the field next year.
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No way to know know if any of the trades will work out for Twins. Or if all the trades, in aggregate, will be a net win for Twins. I think when judging the trades in aggregate, there's value in the likely top 5 draft pick vs the likely 10-15 pick we were heading for. I can't help but wonder if helping to secure that higher pick, for arguably, a decent return, factored into the decision to move Varland. Anyways, I hope the local kid goes off and has himself a great career:)
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Interesting article, interesting comments. Enjoy reading them. Its all fiction. Twins aren't going to make any big moves at deadline. Current ownership isn't going to invest in the future by being a seller, isn't going to invest in the present by being a buyer. They might make some move on the fringe to give us something to talk or read about, but otherwise, this is our team, lets hope they can make some magic the second half.
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This is our team. No trades are coming to save us. No trades are coming to rebuild for the future. If the players we have perform well, we'll be fine. They haven't. If our players stay healthy, we'll be fine. They haven't. IF players are healthy and performing, we'll compete for playoff spot. This was true last all last off-season, all spring training, all this season. It is still true. Lets hope they can turn it around, again.
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Royce Lewis injures left hamstring... again 🤬
Exiled in Illinois replied to Ottomatic1990's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Don't know or really care if the Twins are in "top ten" of teams hurt by injuries. It looks to me the Twins have been stretched to the breaking point, or perhaps past the breaking point, of being able to remain a competative, playoff caliber team. I hope I'm wrong, but I think it's likely to be a long, frustrating season. -
Let's not forget about Bride...he's already on the roster!
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The Twins are not going to trade for an everyday postion player, at any postion. Third base will be Lewis, Lee, Castro, Bride. We'll cycle people through there until someone catches fire, if nobody does, we'll all talk about getting a third baseman as we watch a Twins-less playoffs. France is our first baseman, if he goes down, dont know what the heck we'll do. If one of our catchers go down, I don't know what the heck we'll do. More early off season fodder to talk about. I do think we need to have better long term solutions at catcher and first base, just don't see us solving these problem spots via trade during this season.
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Feel bad for Lewis, the team, and us fans. When he returns, I expect he will not be the everyday 3rd baseman. He'll time share it with whatever players are still on roster that can play 3rd base. I think he will get most of his at bats as DH, and I think that would be for the best this year. Longer term, he needs to be moved to 1st base, should have been done this year. He'll be a better fielder there, with less wear and tear. And yes, I know he injured himself running the bases:)
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