I thought, given the spirit of the post, the local and fan connection pushed Herbie ahead. I'm definitely a huge Morny fan too. But looking at the statistics, I think Herbie's way ahead. He is ahead in all the counting stats, partly based on having more years in a Twins' jersey (and more Dome years), but in most cases even when you include Morneau's seasons on other teams. His OPS+ for his career was 128, with 12 years in a row of at least 112 (all but his initial 24-game call-up and his last year). Six years of 130 or more. Morneau had 7 Twins years of 112 or more, with an OPS+ of 121. He had his incredible year of 2010 with an OPS+ of 187, but of course he only played a half-season that year. I still think it's a shame that Herbie basically ate his way out of the league, but as someone said in the Sano thread, perhaps he would have played the game less joyfully and less effectively if he had taken really good care of himself. At the very least, he wouldn't have been the same player. For those of you that don't remember, when Dome announcer Bob Casey would do his famous NOOOO SMOKING IN THE METRODOME announcement, Herbie would stand at first base and vigorously shake his head No, then mime drinking a beer, nod his head, and give a thumb's up to the cheering crowd. It was as big a dome ritual as pop flies bouncing into the left field stands and players losing pop-ups in the roof.