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There seems to be a lesson here about many very effective arms being readily available to stick in your bullpen. Almost like...teams, and more importantly their fans, shouldn't stress too much about the long term viability of their existent bullpen arms.
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Everyone keeps ignoring Roden. Before the deadline folks here were asking for major league ready position players to help the team right away in 2026, and Roden is exactly that type of player. But now that the Twins have received that type of player, no one wants to see him on the team.
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He just got into yet another twitter spat, this time with Jeff Passan. I don't think Doug would be able to handle the job. He seems to lack the maturity or leadership you would need in that level of position.
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Dear Twins, About That Season Ticket Letter...
NYCTK replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I don't think this is clear at all. Before the trade deadline I said here that it would wise to: 1) trade all expiring contracts that anyone wants (obviously) 2) try to get a team like the Yankees or Phillies to just take Correa and eat 1/3 of his contract 3) sell 2 of the 3 of Duran, Jax, Stewart 4) see if anyone would take Topa or even Tonkin As we saw 1, 2, and 3 all came true and seeing it all unfold it was then, if reporting is accurate, that Jax requested to be traded as well. So that really only leaves Varland as the unexpected trade, and if you take a step back and ignore the human side of him being a Minnesota kid, that trade is completely defensible. If you were told 6 months ago that Varland would be traded for 2 of another organization's Top 10 prospects we all would have been elated. A run of success in the bullpen doesn't change that for me.- 31 replies
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Week in Review: It All Falls Apart
NYCTK replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I can imagine Jax has been unhappy with the Twins since he was plainly told he would not be given a chance to compete for the starting rotation again. Imagine you in your job applied for an internal promotion and were flatly told you would never receive an interview. Good luck to him, and if he still wants to, I hope he gets that chance next spring with the Rays.- 43 replies
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You're mistaken. When the Mets sold two future hall of fame pitchers under control in the 2023 season, Mets fans, myself included, looked at the returns and, while they weren't great, began thinking of the team objectively and how those pieces fit into the new roster. Acuna isn't that good, but he's a role player and improves the team. Would I be happy with the Mets, trying to win a world series had Roden penciled in as their starting LF? No. But I was happy with Drew Gilbert in return for Verlander, and Drew Gilbert is about the same player as Alan Roden. Not quite good enough a hitter to be a great corner nor good enough defense to be a CF. But good enough to be valuable. And also, a piece that was ultimately Gilbert was traded for a bullpen arm when the team was ready to push for it. Roden in my mind is a new Verdugo type. And the Yankees just went to the WS last year with Verdugo as their LF. So, I refuse to **** on the Twins returns and instead will look at them objectively. Now, if you ask me if I would have made that specific trade? Probably not, but not because I value Varland. Moreso because I think it'd be easier to throw him in as the closer retain his value then flip him next year, and that takes away stress from a FULL bullpen reset.
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I'm not gonna suggest he's a high ceiling future all star. Toronto has a group of these decent out fielders and his loss, especially considering his struggles in the final jump to the majors, won't be felt in their playoff push. But the other fact is...he's already a better bet than Larnach in LF and 3 years younger. He feels like a 1.5-2.0 WAR player with the possible upside of a 2.5 win player. Larnachs defense is so bad his upside is only 1.5 wins. Now, is Roden exciting? No. And he may not be around in' 27 if both Jenkins and Rodriguez continue their development and become strong contributors. But he is a good insurance plan if one of them, or Gonzalez or whomever falters.
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OK. And my response is who cares? Are they not getting enough playing time to prove themselves? Should managers be managing to win games or stroke the fragile egos of players? Are we really here complaining that Trevor Larnach wasn't allowed to strikeout against more lefties in close games? Or that he was pinch run for and substituted? Is the argument that Trevor Larnach would be better if he were just allowed to suck more often? I'm really struggling to understand the argument man. Ps: you didn't mention a single player. Relying on nebulous theory instead. So I'm mentioning Larnach as an example
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The argument is that its much easier to build a good bullpen at a drop of a hat. And good GMs have proven that to be true. Go and look at any good teams bullpen and look at the method they were brought in. I just glanced at SD Padres and only two of their arms was developed internally. One of those was a NDFA. Two were trades. One was waiver. Others were free agents. I read that 45 relief pitchers were traded this last week. That's crazy!
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I think this is a decent argument. I think it would have been more beneficial to let him get closing experience, even on a bad team, and then sell him. Think that would have increased his value, but you can argue it doesn't matter cause the return for him wasn't much different than that for Jax, value wise.
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Right. But since he didn't exactly prove himself the first time, isn't really proving himself now, and had a very short sample size in the bigs, why are we in a rush to get him back to the bigs? Because he was fun for a week? Let him prove himself. There's literally no reason to bring him up right now. He'll get back there eventually.
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As ****** the reason, I love stories like Ryan Fitzgerald. Nearly 3000 plate appearances in the minors chasing this dream and it's finally come true.
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It should. This isn't a veteran of the game that spent a season in AA and AAA and really proved himself worthy of the big leagues. This is a lie that we all like, with talent, that was scorching hot and forced his way onto the big league roster. He's only had a half season at AA and now 100 PAs at AAA. They really should let him prove himself again fully since there's no rush the rest of the season. He's 22 and there is the psychological risk of letting him flail on a noncompetetive team.
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Ope, Didn't Mean to Let You Have Hope
NYCTK replied to Chris Hanel's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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Good corrections. Thanks man. So, pretty unlikely and no idea if that's at all part of the calculus.
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