Point taken. We flail against Punto as much for the way he was used like a regular and given four chances to fail when most guys only get three, as for his bone-headed, hot-dog, wild-ass plays. But this was a thread about the comparison between Punto and Carroll. Both were good utility players. Both had their ups and downs. Carroll ended his Twins career on a down, somewhat sullying his otherwise good numbers (whereas Punto had 7 years of ups and downs to balance out his inconsistency). This accounts for a lot of Sinker's issue. Still and all, perhaps the more vocal Twins fans appreciate playing the way they were taught to play. I can't recall a grounder hit right at him where he simply gloved it, planted and threw. Even when he had a routine play, he had to circle around it and make it look spectacular, a la Juan Castro. There was just no need to play the game that way. And he couldn't bunt, run the bases or otherwise play situational baseball to save his life. For me, his career will always be defined by this play: On the other hand, I could count on one hand the times Carroll failed to make the routine play in a solid, fundamental way. That made him a good role model for the young guys (unlike Punto, who helped turn Alexi Casilla into a freak).