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  1. Owings was playing 2B today, but Drury has been their regular 2B this season. Owings had been their primary SS.
  2. It would be kinda cool if we got back into the race now. Especially if some Garcia replacement went on a nice run...
  3. No. I mean, in theory, sure they could package Gordon, Gonsalves, and Littell tomorrow, but this trade doesn't make that hypothetical one any more likely. And there is zero indication they are shopping their top prospects.
  4. Doubtful. These two, while perhaps useful, are not the types of prospects that bring much value to a bigger deal.
  5. Sickels and Fangraphs both have ordered rankings, but admit large swaths of them have identical values attached, and they just order them on preference. Pretty much every prospect evaluator does the same, whether they share the details or not. The gap between 16 and 21, while obviously "real" in a particular evaluator's opinion, is quite likely so small in absolute valuation as to be meaningless for our purposes here. Maybe the Twins really value Littell $4 mil more than Ynoa, in absolute terms. Or maybe their preference for MLB readiness is worth $4 mil. Or some mix. But given what we know, though (16/21, the Yankees luxury tax threshold, and the Twins falling way back in the race in just a week), it appears the $4 mil was more of an incidental cost of aiming to compete with Garcia, and getting a near MLB ready arm to replace him as a fallback option, than it was a deliberate investment in upgrading Ynoa to Littell, in absolute terms.
  6. 3 too many zeros there! Unless it was an Austin Powers reference?
  7. Colon has to be done after today, right? Gibson plus Enn or some other auditioning starter, right? Edit: oh yeah, Santiago... let's hope he gets healthy and dealt in August?
  8. By any ranking that attaches a numerical or letter grade (i.e. Fangraphs or Sickels), 16 is usually about equal to 21. At that point the only difference is ceiling vs floor, evaluator preference, etc. (FWIW, Sickels had Ynoa at 14 preseason, while Pipeline had him 23.) Also, credit to Hosken in another thread, but the Yankees are actually right up against a luxury tax threshold right now: https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2017/7/30/16064814/jaime-garcia-trade-twins-yankees-zack-littell-dietrich-enns-strategy-buyers-sellers-deadline So I strongly suspect the Twins eating the salary was a simple condition of any deal, not a negotiating tactic to get a prospect ~5 spots higher or whatever. It is possible that the Braves simply preferred Ynoa to Littell, but to the extent that they may have not, remember that Littell perhaps was not available to them a week ago (assuming the Yankees were holding him back for Gray negotiations). Edit: none of this is to say I don't like the deals. Just that I don't think the inclusion of cash necessarily bought us a better prospect, just a different one (who we may like better, or prefer his readiness, etc.).
  9. FWIW, some rational Yankee fans here don't mind the deal at all: http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/newsstand/discussion/mlbtr_twins_yankees_moving_toward_jaime_garcia_trade/ I suspect the Yankee fans that don't like it are the more obnoxious, prospect-overrating, and average-MLB-player underrating type. Although that type seems pretty numerous, and it can still be worthwhile to annoy them.
  10. Recker was basically a waiver claim that no one else wanted. Enns was probably going to be waived too, to make room for Garcia. We did get to jump the line, although I suspect the Yankees didn't care. Littell and Ynoa actually don't appear to be meaningfully separated in rank or future value, it is primarily just a preference of ceiling vs floor, closeness to MLB, etc. I won't dispute that the $4 mil cash bought us the opportunity to swap similar value prospects for one in our preferred position.
  11. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/07/twins-trade-jaime-garcia-yankees.html
  12. Wow, the Twins are paying Garcia's salary too (~$4 mil).
  13. While the new front office has frustrated me in some ways, it is cool to see them pivot quickly like this. The old FO never seemed quite this nimble.
  14. Hughes on his original contract was a great asset. Low risk, plenty of room for value either in performance or trade, and from anywhere in the rotation or pen. Hughes after the extension pretty much only had one path to value, and that was staying in Minnesota near the top of the rotation for several years. It wasn't a particularly good deal for us even if you thought he had a decent chance to be "90%" of his peak year.
  15. I admit, I forgot about Pressly. Wouldn't mind optioning him again. But I'd rather look at Curtiss or maybe even Romero with that spot right now. Since we've added Busenitz and Hildenberger already, might as well give them as many opportunities as possible. Boshers is a bit of a weird case. Is he a LOOGY? Would we rather have a bench bat, or Garver?
  16. Cheap rental reliever sounds like a Belisle to me, at this point. You have other ideas?
  17. How about Curtiss? They promoted him to AAA too, which implies they may protect him on the 40 man this winter. And who would you send out for your Belisle clone? Keep in mind they are still running out an 8 man bullpen right now, and Perkins might want a spot soon too...
  18. Weren't you predicting Jake Reed would be up by now? And now you want to add a Belisle clone?
  19. It was a direct response to the quoted portion of my post.
  20. This is basically saying you won't trade him. No one is likely to give up such a starter for Ervin right now, they would just use the young starter themselves. What if Gonsalves came up to take Ervin's place? You could think of him as the trade return, and the other prospects as acquired by other means. Besides, Ervin's true role on the team isn't just as a starting pitcher, it is as the veteran innings eating short-ish term ~$13 mil per season starting pitcher. That can come on the FA market this winter.
  21. Pretty sure that, yes, he is filler. It is his 4th year in AA, which probably explains some of the success. He had a taste of AAA last year and only posted a 102 wRC+ which probably didn't impress as a 1B...
  22. Seems like Luhnow has given up fair value (or more) in his deals for Giles and Gomez...
  23. Primarily because they are old. Not sure it is a great achievement to put away the likes of 35 year olds Omar Infante and Brendan Ryan. And Jacoby Jones, who struck out 3 times last night, has a 45% K rate in his MLB career to date... That's not to take away from Melville's season, though. He has a string of solid starts against some better teams too. Just cautioning against reading too much into the 11 Ks last night (his previous season high was 6).
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