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  1. My wife had a similar take. I'm a bit apprehensive as well, but Noah Hawley has a pretty good track record so I'm reserving judgement on that.
  2. That Rendon ejection today was pretty ridiculous. I hope the Nationals pursue that with the league office.
  3. I'm excited, should be the start of a tremendous rivalry. Let's hope Spurge is ready and enough to hold down the fort with Suter out.
  4. This is an important, and well-stated sentence. For the record though, some lectures might be necessary. But they should evolve into discussions. At least, that should be the aim.
  5. Well, from my recollection, all of us that brought up our discomfort for this also said we have avoided derailing the issue in other opportunities out of respect for that. None of us want to die on that hill, we're just pointing out that it's a problematic term in the discussion. We want the same thing you do, we're not "demanding" anything, we're just worried the term has a negative impact on the discussion. Words matter, but outcomes matter most. If you're turning people away from the conversation on the very face of it, you're likely diminishing the impact of your conversation before it even starts. Go ahead, make them uncomfortable with what you're saying and the reality you're hitting them with, but be aware you want their cooperation. At some point you need it. Continually making them uncomfortable, purposely, is counter-productive.
  6. I'd rather they take a shot at extending Escobar right now.
  7. Great post. We don't spend enough time talking about how to have discussions and how to arrive at solutions. We shout our righteous indignation at each other, feel satisfied the other side "heard" us, and walk back to our camps. We scoff at the other side for wanting things "their way", we dismiss any attempt at clarity, nuance, and thoughtfulness, and we toss around our pet phrases until we satisfy ourselves. And that's all we satisfy. The real work is done in the nitty gritty - before, during, and after the discussion and efforts to fix thing. We can rush into a conversation, but we shouldn't be surprised when the results of those attempts yield nothing. And the ground-work need not take that long.
  8. Yeesh is there a lot of irony here. I think you have badly misconstrued what nearly everyone in this thread has said.
  9. Isn’t that when you do your best thinking?
  10. Well said. But we've also become experts at completely missing the point of what other people are saying. (Or deliberately confusing what they intend. See: Flags and Kneeling)
  11. Garver's shot was an absolute blast. Get that man more playing time please.
  12. I wish we could have a conversation about that term. Yes, there are larger issues so I too haven't died on that hill, but the intention of that phrase is to jar people to attention and make them uncomfortable. That's fine, I understand the importance of that. But then we have to move forward and the connotations that "privilege" comes with derails that. All of us in this discussion can move past that and continue the dialogue but, frankly, we're not the ones we need to add to the dialogue. The people we do are (in some cases) rightly insulted and turned away by that rhetoric. The gravity of the issue leads me to also avoid that fight, but at some point I wish we could recognize how there comes a point where we want to be constructive and work to be that in every way we can.
  13. I think, until you've embraced this, it's hard to have a good conversation. I've had the benefit of many in my lifetime with some young black men in Chicago that definitely have opened my eyes and made me a better person. They were hard, in part because of the difficulty in hearing the challenges they faced as children just to survive in this world and to feel the enormous privilege (in more of the definitional sense here) I've had that they didn't. It's eye-opening and humbling. So yeah, you're going to have to hear some absolutely obnoxious lecturing (largely from white liberals to be honest) but go seek out some authentic conversations on race, privilege, and biases. Those conversations can sound a lot like this one, but with some voices from people who share a much different experience than yours. And that doesn't have to be just about race. If you're some rich yuppie, go talk to that lower middle class farmer. If you're a man, open up and listen to the experiences of women. If you're an atheist, go talk to that Mormon family. It won't hurt unless you let it.
  14. I think that's a valid concern you, Chief, and jimmer are bringing forward. Too often in our hardest conversations we see "isms" weaponized against people. Your point of view, regardless of it's merit, can be tossed out or lifted up merely by how well it lines up (or doesn't) with someone's pet "ism". I wouldn't want to single any person out for being racist in their criticism unless I saw a sustained pattern of it. I think you can absolutely, validly criticize Eddie for yesterday. And no one should feel pressured not to because of Eddie's race either. At the same time, we should be making sure our views on Eddie are consistent with our views on other players, that we treat him fairly, and we are not part of larger patterns that are critical of him, in part, because of his race. But talking about issues like this is essential for a number of reasons. There are some too preoccupied with race and some not preoccupied enough and in the vast middle are many of us just trying to be good people. But it never hurts to talk about it.
  15. I gave up on the delusion that you "hustle on every play" as a child. I remember a game (only vaguely) when Bremer was chastising someone for not running out a ground ball and cited Kirby as a player who hustles every play. Lo and Behold, Kirby's next two ABs he barely left the box on one and half-heartedly jogged on the other. Myth busted for this kid. And I've never bought that nonsense since. Didn't make me think less of Kirby, just made me realize how silly that idea was.
  16. I agree, we shouldn't do that, but as Brock said....I don't think anyone is. Where we start to cross into racism territory is not in the single instances of criticism but in the patterns of criticism, their forcefulness, and in how mean-spirited they are. Kent Hrbek was beloved as the husky white dude that was an "agile for a big man" first baseman. Miguel Sano, by my eyes, looks to be in better shape, is playing a more demanding position, and is a better baseball player and look at the stark contrast in how he's treated. Do I think that is chalked up solely to race? No. Do I think race is a factor for everyone criticizing Sano? No. But do I see an overall pattern of criticism that seems ridiculous relative to those two men? Absolutely. And I think race is a major reason why, whether it be overtly or subconsciously. I see the same patterns in the way a lot of established baseball fans and players treat latin players in particular. Ian Kinsler walked himself straight into it last year with some bone-headed remarks. But that undercurrent of "they don't play the right way" is strong in baseball. I'm thankful that, by and large, that isn't the case here at TD. But it does creep in from time to time. And with all that said...yeah....Eddie should've jogged that one out. Something about that pop-up confused everyone in the infield, but I'd still like to see him jog it out. But I'm not one to worry too much about that because I have yet to see a major league player who runs out every play. They all give up on a play from time to time. Eddie just picked a bad time to do it.
  17. In general I think Twinsdaily is better than the baseball world about criticisms that are valid rather than racial. But the general baseball world is awful about it. Some of that bleeds here in the form of constant criticisms of Sano and Rosario in particular, but by and large TwinsDaily is pretty fair as a community. But the larger baseball world? Awful. Just awful.
  18. No one should be eager to see Dozier go because of prospects we have. But we also shouldn't be eager to give a middle infielder his age any contract over three years either. Dozier being a late bloomer has put this decision in an awkward spot, but I think cooler heads will determine that any long-term investment is likely a mistake.
  19. I think you can lump a great deal of the criticism of Sano in with this as well.
  20. If he wants to do something similar for half the years, I'm interested. I'd give him 3/65 even. But anything over 3 years and I'm out unless it's a full team option.
  21. In addition, how many are there in all of baseball right now? A handful? For the vast majority of hitters, the pitching team wants them out and wouldn't be content with constantly putting them on base. So I'm not sure how much weight that counter-argument should really get. Yes, Bryce Harper can bunt and teams will be ok with that. Most guys aren't Bryce Harper.
  22. Don't worry, someone will steal a base in the eighth in a 4-2 game they're leading and ignite some easily butt-hurt soul into starting it up again soon enough. I would just prefer it's not the Twins.
  23. Also, putting runners on greatly reduces the ability to shift. You might free some players from facing the shift by way of getting on base and putting the opponent back in a more normal infield alignment.
  24. I won't deny being in a huff about it. I think it's absurd and baseball needs to move away from it. Players need to be a lot less fragile about their egos and keep the game to this simple maxim: Try to get them out. Try not to get out. Layering all this other nonsense on where Sisco "the kid" needs to get taught by someone. Or "they" (usually the non-white players) need to play with more respect. Preposterous. Off-putting. Soft. Childish. You pick the adjective. It needs to go away. Get them out. Don't get out. Play ball. Drop the rest. Hopefully Dozier and the rest of the Twins play ball like that the rest of the year.
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