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We'll play with what we've got now. C - Mauer/Doumit/Hermann 1B - Parmalee/Colabello/Mauer 2B - Dozier ( Rosario in mid-summer) 3B - Plouffe ( Sano in mid-summer) SS - Florimon/Dozier LF - Willingham/Arcia CF - Hicks/Presley RF - Parmalee/Arcia/Hermann DH - one of the above I doubt any FA will be a starter. I doubt Buxton will be brought up until Sept 2014.

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I am hoping that they put Diamond into Deduno's slot. Diamond's last few starts have been pretty good.

The last 2 cycles of the Twins starters. [TABLE=class: grid, width: 500] Date[TD=width: 53]Vs[/TD] [TD=width: 68]Pitcher[/TD] [TD=width: 40]W-L[/TD] [TD=width: 42]Score[/TD] [TD=width: 36]IP[/TD] [TD=width: 39]Runs[/TD] [TD=width: 32]QS[/TD] [TD=width: 81]Comment[/TD] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: grid, width: 500] Thur[TD=width: 43]22[/TD] [TD=width: 53]Det[/TD] [TD=width: 68]Albers[/TD] [TD=width: 40]W[/TD] [TD=width: 42]7 – 6[/TD] [TD=width: 36]5.2[/TD] [TD=width: 39]5[/TD] [TD=width: 32]N[/TD] [TD=width: 81][/TD] Fri 23 Cle Deduno W 5 – 1 6 1 Y [/TD] Sat 24 Cle Hendriks L 2 – 7 4.1 7 N Sun 25 Cle Pelfrey L 1 – 3 5 1 N Mon 26 Tue 27 KC Correia L 1 – 6 7 0 Y Wed 28 KC Albers L 1 – 8 7 3 Y 1 unearned Thur 29 KC Deduno L 1 – 3 3 3 N Deduno hurt Fri 30 Tex Hendriks W 3 – 2 6 2 Y Sat 31 Tex Pelfrey L 1 – 2 7 1 Y [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: grid, width: 500] Sun[TD=width: 43]1 [TD=width: 53]Tex[/TD] [TD=width: 68]Correia[/TD] [TD=width: 40]W[/TD] [TD=width: 42]4 – 2[/TD] [TD=width: 36]7[/TD] [TD=width: 39]1[/TD] [TD=width: 32]Y[/TD] [TD=width: 81][/TD] [/TABLE]

Sorry about the format. I am still trying to figure that out.

and now Presley gets an RBI ! This is too much to handle in one game.

Josmil Pinto - This is why I watch as many Twins games as possible. First hit. First xtra base hit. First RBI.

If the "youth" is a Presley, Thomas, Ramirez or Mastroianni, I'd rather see a proven hitter like Kubel, Willingham or Doumit. None of these should be played before Arcia or Parmalee. Colabello is too old to be considered "youth". He is a stopgap player at best, and a mighty poor one, so far.

This is how each starter did. [TABLE] [TD=width: 55]Day[/TD] [TD=width: 43]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 53]Vs[/TD] [TD=width: 68]Pitcher[/TD] [TD=width: 40]W-L[/TD] [TD=width: 42]Score[/TD] [TD=width: 36]IP[/TD] [TD=width: 39]Runs[/TD] [TD=width: 32]QS[/TD] [TD=width: 81]Comment[/TD] Fri 9 ChiSox Hendriks W 3 – 2 6.1 2 Y [/TD] Sat 24 Cle Hendriks L 2 – 7 4.1 7 N Fri 30 Tex Hendriks W 3 – 2 6 2 Y Day Date Vs Pitcher W-L Score IP Runs QS Comment Thur 1 KC Diamond L 2 – 7 5 7 N 1 unearned Day Date Vs Pitcher W-L Score IP Runs QS Comment Fri 2 Hou Deduno W 4 – 3 6 2 Y Wed 7 KC Deduno L 2 – 5 5.2 4 N Tue 13 Cle Deduno L 2 – 5 6 4 N Sun 18 ChiSox Deduno L 2 – 5 5 5 N Fri 23 Cle Deduno W 5 – 1 6 1 Y Thur 29 KC Deduno L 1 – 3 3 3 N Deduno hurt Day Date Vs Pitcher W-L Score IP Runs QS Comment Sat 3 Hou Gibson W 6 – 4 3 4 N Fri 9 ChiSox Gibson W 7 – 5 5.2 3 N Wed 14 Cle Gibson L 8 – 9 5.1 3 N 12 innings Mon 19 Mets Gibson L 1 – 6 3.2 4 N Day Date Vs Pitcher W-L Score IP Runs QS Comment Sun 4 Hou Pelfrey W 3 – 2 5 2 N Sat 10 ChiSox Pelfrey L 4 – 5 5 5 N 1 unearned Thur 15 ChiSox Pelfrey W 4 – 3 6.1 3 Y Tue 20 Det Pelfrey W 6 – 3 6.2 3 Y Sun 25 Cle Pelfrey L 1 – 3 5 1 N Sat 31 Tex Pelfrey L 1 – 2 7 1 Y Day Date Vs Pitcher W-L Score IP Runs QS Comment Mon 5 KC Correia L 0 -13 2 6 N Sun 11 ChiSox Correia W 5 – 2 7 0 Y Fri 16 ChiSox Correia L 2 – 5 7.1 4 N Wed 21 Det Correia L 1 – 7 6.2 2 Y Tue 27 KC Correia L 1 – 6 7 0 Y Day Date Vs Pitcher W-L Score IP Runs QS Comment Tue 6 KC Albers W 7 – 0 8.1 0 Y Mon 12 Cle Albers W 3 – 2 9 0 Y Sat 17 ChiSox Albers L 5 – 8 7 5 N Thur 22 Det Albers W 7 – 6 5.2 5 N [TD]Wed 28 KC Albers L 1 – 8 7 3 Y 1 unearned [/TABLE]

The Twins were 13 - 17 for August with 13 complete games. [TABLE] Day[TD=width: 43]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 53]Vs[/TD] [TD=width: 68]Pitcher[/TD] [TD=width: 40]W-L[/TD] [TD=width: 42]Score[/TD] [TD=width: 36]IP[/TD] [TD=width: 39]Runs[/TD] [TD=width: 32]QS[/TD] [TD=width: 81]Comment[/TD] Thur 1 KC Diamond L 2 – 7 5 7 N 1 unearned Fri 2 Hou Deduno W 4 – 3 6 2 Y [/TD] Sat 3 Hou Gibson W 6 – 4 3 4 N Sun 4 Hou Pelfrey W 3 – 2 5 2 N Mon 5 KC Correia L 0 -13 2 6 N Tue 6 KC Albers W 7 – 0 8.1 0 Y Wed 7 KC Deduno L 2 – 5 5.2 4 N Thur 8 Fri 9 ChiSox Gibson W 7 – 5 5.2 3 N 9 ChiSox Hendriks W 3 – 2 6.1 2 Y Sat 10 ChiSox Pelfrey L 4 – 5 5 5 N 1 unearned Sun 11 ChiSox Correia W 5 – 2 7 0 Y Mon 12 Cle Albers W 3 – 2 9 0 Y Tue 13 Cle Deduno L 2 – 5 6 4 N Wed 14 Cle Gibson L 8 – 9 5.1 3 N 12 innings Thur 15 ChiSox Pelfrey W 4 – 3 6.1 3 Y Fri 16 ChiSox Correia L 2 – 5 7.1 4 N Sat 17 ChiSox Albers L 5 – 8 7 5 N Sun 18 ChiSox Deduno L 2 – 5 5 5 N Mon 19 Mets Gibson L 1 – 6 3.2 4 N Tue 20 Det Pelfrey W 6 – 3 6.2 3 Y Wed 21 Det Correia L 1 – 7 6.2 2 Y Thur 22 Det Albers W 7 – 6 5.2 5 N Fri 23 Cle Deduno W 5 – 1 6 1 Y Sat 24 Cle Hendriks L 2 – 7 4.1 7 N Sun 25 Cle Pelfrey L 1 – 3 5 1 N Mon 26 Tue 27 KC Correia L 1 – 6 7 0 Y Wed 28 KC Albers L 1 – 8 7 3 Y 1 unearned Thur 29 KC Deduno L 1 – 3 3 3 N Deduno hurt Fri 30 Tex Hendriks W 3 – 2 6 2 Y Sat 31 Tex Pelfrey L 1 – 2 7 1 Y[TD] [/TABLE]

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MLB Network has the Pirates game on. Morneau just walked into the dugout with a big smile on his face. He looks very strange in a Pirates uniform.

Dependance on strikeouts leads to increased pitch count per inning, which in turn usually leads to elevated ERA and Homers. There is nothing wrong with a 6.3 K/9.

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IF Morneau has a good Sept and postseason. IF he is willing to sign a reasonable contract for 2 years with a Twins option for the 3rd year. IF Colabello and/or Parmalee don't show us anything in Sept. THEN I would like to resign Morneau. Otherwise, I wish him well on the rest of his career.

and for all the other Slama lovers out there, since his release, no other organization have picked him up. It looks like his career is done (unless he joins the Saints).

First, we've got to remember that these 3 losing seasons could not have been predicted before 2011. The Twins 2011 pitching staff, which had won a pennant and played 2 163rd game playoffs (with 1 win) had an epic failure. All of them except Pavano (33 starts) were hurt . Blackburn (26 starts), Baker (23 starts), Liriano (24 starts), Slowey (8 starts). Duensing (32 starts) and Swartzak (27 starts) were pressed into service and pitched poorly for the most part. Diamond (7 starts) and Hendriks (4 starts) were also given a try. 2 years later the starters are gone, Swartzak and Duensing are successful relievers and Diamond and Hendriks have not proved themselves (Yet we still hope). Nobody predicted that. Tearing a team down and going only with prospects never works. You need a mix of veterans and young players to forge a winning team (or buy as many veterans as possible ala the Yankees). This has been Ryan's approach and I agree with it. We only started with 4 proven veteran hitters and Willingham and Doumit have hit below their norms while Morneau hit without power or consistency. Of all the young guys only Dozier and Arcia have proved to be marginal major league hitters. If the Twins had more output from the veterans and one of the youngsters being a solid hitter (.275 + BA) The Twins could have won at least 10 more games, even with our current pitching staff.

One month of excellent power hitting in 2012 has kept me hoping. I have watched each Plouffe at bat with anticipation that he would break out of this slump and hit like his 2012 streak. Alas and alack, it never came to pass. About a week ago I gave up on Plouffe. No more hope. No more watching his at bats. It looks like Plouffe will be forever lost to me.

Hendriks starts in August [TABLE] Day[TD=width: 43]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 53]Vs[/TD] [TD=width: 68]Pitcher[/TD] [TD=width: 40]W-L[/TD] [TD=width: 42]Score[/TD] [TD=width: 36]IP[/TD] [TD=width: 39]Runs[/TD] [TD=width: 32]QS[/TD] [TD=width: 81]Comment[/TD] Fri 9 ChiSox Hendriks W 3 – 2 6.1 2 Y [/TD] Sat 24 Cle Hendriks L 2 – 7 4.1 7 N Fri 30 Tex Hendriks W 3 – 2 6 2 Y[TD] [/TABLE]

Danny Santana should be on the Top 100 lists. In 2012 at FtM he hit .286 .329 .410 .739 with 21 doubles & 17 stolen bases in 28 tries. In 2013 at NB he has hit .296 .331 .387 .718 with 22 doubles & 28 stolen bases in 41 tries.

He looks like a Major Leaguer. Lets hope he becomes one.

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3 years of this ? The Twins have 2 former hitting coaches (Vavra and Ullger) who can evaluate the job Bruno is doing. If he wasn't competent he would be gone already.

After last night I would be happy to call anyone up to replace Plough

All these stats point to one thing. Hendricks has not been a very good starting pitcher so far. Has he shown enough to get a full season ? I am not a pitching evaluator, but if he has a 50% chance of having a quality start, then the Twins should have Hendriks pitching every 1/5 day. If the Twins don't think he has a 50% chance now, but might develop, they should keep him in AAA. If they don't think he will develop into a 50% QS pitcher then they should cut him lose. duh ??? That is what they are doing. Why are WE discussing it.