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I am seriously worried that our bullpen will collapse. Remember the year when Gardy overused Guerrier ? and Crain hadn't recovered from surgery ? August and September they couldn't get thru an inning without runs scoring. If Albers has a typical outing for a first time pitcher, they'll need to bring in Swarzak and he's pitched 3 innings on both Aug 1 and Aug 3.

Maybe the Twins will switch Correia to the bullpen and make Swarzak or Duensing a starter. I know, they have both tried and failed as starters, but it is a new year and maybe the reason that they have been successful relievers is that they have learned something.

underhand lol that would make it more fun to watch than this.

I hate watching Correia pitch. I hate his results. I hate his contract. I wish he would give me reason to like him.

I can't believe this conversation is going on and nobody has mentioned Nishioka. His signing looked great. His actual production was terrible. I'm not saying that Guerrero would be terrible, but Nishioka should be a caution. No matter how good they look on paper, we have to see how they are in the field. That is a big investment and we have 2 2nd base prospects already. Dozier and Rosario. Dozier is certainly a major league fielding talent and he may end up being a decent hitter. Rosario looks like he falls out of bed hitting, but his fielding is suspect. We don't need another MI prospect unless he looks like a major league hitter and fielder.

Here is where you can keep track of what is happening in the Minors tonight: Minnesota Twins Affiliates Scoreboard | MiLB.com Scoreboard | The Official Site of Minor League Baseball

Pelfrey was painful to watch today.

Thank goodness they got to Buxton early and never allowed him to steal home.

Twins starters, except for Duduno, have either been inconsistent or bad. This means that starting candidates are coming up and going straight into the rotation. In years past, a good AAA pitcher was brought up and put into the bullpen and given a chance to start when a rotation spot opened up. This was why Duensing got to be in the rotation to start 2012. He was a successful spot starter in 2011. Now, all the starter candidates in AAA (except Albers and Darnell) have been tried by the Twins and have not been successful. We dismiss them as prospects, yet these are the pitchers that will probably get another chance before Meyer, May or any of the rest of them. Just because we hold low expectations for them, does not mean that they are not prospects.

Only Joe and Doumit were Major League hitters in July. All the rest hit .240 or below.

My top 10 list. Gibson Albers Diamond Walters Hendriks Darnell Vasquez Worley DeVries Blackburn All our AAA/IR starters. lol

Maybe they bring back Walters to pitch one game.

I posted the stats of the Twins starters in July along with the individual game results. July Starters & Results - Blogs - Minnesota Twins News & Rumors Forum I apologize for making this hard to find. I am new at this kind of stuff.

Thanks. I haven't figured this thing out yet.

The Twins had 11 Quality Starts but only 9 wins. The July record was truly a team effort.

Here are the statistics for the Twins starters in July. Included is the individual game records of each of the pitchers, as well. July Starters & Results - Blogs - Minnesota Twins News & Rumors Forum

In July the Twins had a 9-17 record. These are the stats for the Twins starters in July. [TABLE] Player[TD=width: 81]Team[/TD] [TD=width: 81]W[/TD] [TD=width: 81]L[/TD] [TD=width: 81]ERA[/TD] [TD=width: 81]G[/TD] [TD=width: 81]GS▼[/TD] [TD=width: 81]SV[/TD] [TD=width: 81]SVO[/TD] [TD=width: 81]IP[/TD] [TD=width: 81]H[/TD] [TD=width: 81]R[/TD] [TD=width: 81]ER[/TD] [TD=width: 81]HR[/TD] [TD=width: 81]BB[/TD] [TD=width: 81]SO[/TD] [TD=width: 81]AVG[/TD] [TD=width: 81]WHIP[/TD] [TD=width: 81]CG[/TD] [TD=width: 81]SHO[/TD] [TD=width: 81]HB[/TD] [TD=width: 81]IBB[/TD] [TD=width: 81]GF[/TD] [TD=width: 81]HLD[/TD] [TD=width: 81]GIDP[/TD] [TD=width: 81]GO[/TD] [TD=width: 81]AO[/TD] [TD=width: 81]WP[/TD] [TD=width: 81]BK[/TD] [TD=width: 81]SB[/TD] [TD=width: 81]TBF[/TD] [TD=width: 81]NP[/TD] Correia, K MIN 1 2 6.12 5 5 0 0 25 35 17 17 4 10 15 0.347 1.8 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 29 26 0 0 1 115 444 Deduno, S MIN 3 2 3.00 5 5 0 0 33 28 11 11 2 14 18 0.235 1.27 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 57 17 3 0 0 134 516 Diamond, S MIN 0 2 4.85 5 5 0 0 26 28 16 14 6 12 8 0.264 1.54 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 41 30 2 0 1 119 439 Gibson, K MIN 1 3 6.91 5 5 0 0 27.1 32 22 21 4 11 13 0.296 1.57 0 0 2 0 0 0 2 37 28 3 0 1 123 463 Pelfrey, M MIN 1 3 3.25 5 5 0 0 27.2 28 10 10 3 9 21 0.267 1.34 0 0 2 0 0 0 3 22 34 0 0 1 116 501 Walters, P MIN 0 1 5.40 1 1 0 0 5 4 3 3 0 3 3 0.211 1.4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 9 0 0 0 22 79 [/TABLE] Here are the results from the individual games. Mon July 1 vs NY L 4-10. Diamond allowed 3 runs in 6.2 innings. Quality Start. (1 unearned) Tue July 2 vs NY L 3-7. Dedunot allowed 3 runs in 6.0 innings. Quality Start. Wed July 3 vs NY L 2-3. Walters allowed 3 runs in 5.0 innings. Thu July 4 vs NY L 5-9. Gibson allowed 8 runs in 5.1 innings. Fri July 5 vs Tor L 0-4. Correia allowed 4 runs in 6.0 innings. Sat July 6 vs Tor W 6-0. Pelfrey allowed 0 runs in 6.0 innings. Quality Start. Sun July 7 vs Tor L 5-11. Diamond allowed 6 runs in 4.2 innings. Mon July 8 vs TB L 4-7. Deduno allowed 5 runs in 6.0 innings. Tue July 9 vs TB L 1-4. Gibson allowed 4 runs in 6.0 innings. Wed July 10 vs TB L 3-4. Correia allowed 3 runs in 5.1 innings. 13 innings. Thu July 11 vs TB L 3-4. Pelfrey allowed 3 runs in 6.0 innings. Quality Start. Fri July 12 vs NY L 0-2. Diamond allowed 0 runs in 3.1 innings. Rain delay. Sat July 13 vs NY W 4-1. Deduno allowed 1 run in 7.0 innings. Sun July 14 vs NY W 10-4. Gibson allowed 2 runs in 5.0 innings. (1 unearned) All-Star Break. Fri July 19 vs Cle W 3-2. Pelfrey allowed 2 runs in 5.2 innings. Sat July 20 vs Cle W 3-2. Correia allowed 2 runs in 6.0 innings. Quality Start. Sun July 21 vs Cle L 1-7. Diamond allowed 6 runs in 4.2 innings. (1 unearned) Mon July 22 vs LAA W 4-3. Deduno allowed 2 runs in 7.0 innings. Quality Start. Tue July 23 vs LAA W 10-3. Gibson allowed 2 runs in 6.0 innings. Quality Start. 10 innings. Wed July 24 vs LAA L 0-1. Pelfrey allowed 1 run in 6.0 innings. Quality Start. Thu July 25 vs Sea L 2-8. Correia allowed 6 runs in 1.2 innings. Fri July 26 vs Sea W 3-2. Diamond allowed 1 run in 6.2 innings. Quality Start. 13 innings. Sat July 27 vs Sea W 4-0. Deduno allowed 0 runs in 7.0 innings. Quality Start. Sun July 28 vs Sea L 4-6 Gibson allowed 5 runs in 5.0 innings. Tue July 30 vs KC L 2-7 Pelfrey allowed 4 runs in 4.0 innings. Wed July 31 vs KC L 3-4 Correia allowed 2 runs in 6.0 innings. Quality start.

In July the Twins had a 9-17 record. These are the stats for the Twins starters in July. [TABLE] Player[TD=width: 81]Team[/TD] [TD=width: 81]W[/TD] [TD=width: 81]L[/TD] [TD=width: 81]ERA[/TD] [TD=width: 81]G[/TD] [TD=width: 81]GS▼[/TD] [TD=width: 81]SV[/TD] [TD=width: 81]SVO[/TD] [TD=width: 81]IP[/TD] [TD=width: 81]H[/TD] [TD=width: 81]R[/TD] [TD=width: 81]ER[/TD] [TD=width: 81]HR[/TD] [TD=width: 81]BB[/TD] [TD=width: 81]SO[/TD] [TD=width: 81]AVG[/TD] [TD=width: 81]WHIP[/TD] [TD=width: 81]CG[/TD] [TD=width: 81]SHO[/TD] [TD=width: 81]HB[/TD] [TD=width: 81]IBB[/TD] [TD=width: 81]GF[/TD] [TD=width: 81]HLD[/TD] [TD=width: 81]GIDP[/TD] [TD=width: 81]GO[/TD] [TD=width: 81]AO[/TD] [TD=width: 81]WP[/TD] [TD=width: 81]BK[/TD] [TD=width: 81]SB[/TD] [TD=width: 81]TBF[/TD] [TD=width: 81]NP[/TD] Correia, K MIN 1 2 6.12 5 5 0 0 25 35 17 17 4 10 15 0.347 1.8 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 29 26 0 0 1 115 444 Deduno, S MIN 3 2 3.00 5 5 0 0 33 28 11 11 2 14 18 0.235 1.27 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 57 17 3 0 0 134 516 Diamond, S MIN 0 2 4.85 5 5 0 0 26 28 16 14 6 12 8 0.264 1.54 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 41 30 2 0 1 119 439 Gibson, K MIN 1 3 6.91 5 5 0 0 27.1 32 22 21 4 11 13 0.296 1.57 0 0 2 0 0 0 2 37 28 3 0 1 123 463 Pelfrey, M MIN 1 3 3.25 5 5 0 0 27.2 28 10 10 3 9 21 0.267 1.34 0 0 2 0 0 0 3 22 34 0 0 1 116 501 Walters, P MIN 0 1 5.40 1 1 0 0 5 4 3 3 0 3 3 0.211 1.4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 9 0 0 0 22 79 [/TABLE] Here are the results from the individual games. Mon July 1 vs NY L 4-10. Diamond allowed 3 runs in 6.2 innings. Quality Start. (1 unearned) Tue July 2 vs NY L 3-7. Dedunot allowed 3 runs in 6.0 innings. Quality Start. Wed July 3 vs NY L 2-3. Walters allowed 3 runs in 5.0 innings. Thu July 4 vs NY L 5-9. Gibson allowed 8 runs in 5.1 innings. Fri July 5 vs Tor L 0-4. Correia allowed 4 runs in 6.0 innings. Sat July 6 vs Tor W 6-0. Pelfrey allowed 0 runs in 6.0 innings. Quality Start. Sun July 7 vs Tor L 5-11. Diamond allowed 6 runs in 4.2 innings. Mon July 8 vs TB L 4-7. Deduno allowed 5 runs in 6.0 innings. Tue July 9 vs TB L 1-4. Gibson allowed 4 runs in 6.0 innings. Wed July 10 vs TB L 3-4. Correia allowed 3 runs in 5.1 innings. 13 innings. Thu July 11 vs TB L 3-4. Pelfrey allowed 3 runs in 6.0 innings. Quality Start. Fri July 12 vs NY L 0-2. Diamond allowed 0 runs in 3.1 innings. Rain delay. Sat July 13 vs NY W 4-1. Deduno allowed 1 run in 7.0 innings. Sun July 14 vs NY W 10-4. Gibson allowed 2 runs in 5.0 innings. (1 unearned) All-Star Break. Fri July 19 vs Cle W 3-2. Pelfrey allowed 2 runs in 5.2 innings. Sat July 20 vs Cle W 3-2. Correia allowed 2 runs in 6.0 innings. Quality Start. Sun July 21 vs Cle L 1-7. Diamond allowed 6 runs in 4.2 innings. (1 unearned) Mon July 22 vs LAA W 4-3. Deduno allowed 2 runs in 7.0 innings. Quality Start. Tue July 23 vs LAA W 10-3. Gibson allowed 2 runs in 6.0 innings. Quality Start. 10 innings. Wed July 24 vs LAA L 0-1. Pelfrey allowed 1 run in 6.0 innings. Quality Start. Thu July 25 vs Sea L 2-8. Correia allowed 6 runs in 1.2 innings. Fri July 26 vs Sea W 3-2. Diamond allowed 1 run in 6.2 innings. Quality Start. 13 innings. Sat July 27 vs Sea W 4-0. Deduno allowed 0 runs in 7.0 innings. Quality Start. Sun July 28 vs Sea L 4-6 Gibson allowed 5 runs in 5.0 innings. Tue July 30 vs KC L 2-7 Pelfrey allowed 4 runs in 4.0 innings. Wed July 31 vs KC L 3-4 Correia allowed 2 runs in 6.0 innings. Quality start.

I noticed that May, Myer have not measured up. Nor have any of the Rochester starters that were in the Twins rotation are listed. If Liam Hendricks had had Andrew Albers numbers, would he have made the list ? or does the list only include pitchers who have not yet made the majors ?

Quality starts lead to wins about 66 percent of the time. Although tonight does not look like one of those games.

Correia allowed 2 runs in 6.0 innings. Quality start.

The Twins aren't hitting. That is not the same thing as "The Twins can't hit." Someone different is doing it every night.

Only pitched 93 pitches. Will Gardy bring him out for 1 more inning ?

75 pitches in 5 innings. That is an average of 15 pitches per inning and Correia should pitch 7 innings. Its not his fault that the Twins aren't hitting.

We play KC 9 times thru the end of August. We should win at least 4 of them. If Correia doesn't pitch a good game tonight, I hope they jerk him from the rotation. Guthrie's stats are very close to Correia, except that he has pitched more innings. Our July hitting (except for Joe) has been terrible. Maybe tonight, something will happen. I predict a win tonight.