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Here's Why the Twins Haven't Gone Hard After Pitching
h2oface replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Well, I took it as a question asked in order to create a dramatic effect or to make a point rather than to get an answer, so I chose rhetoric instead.- 94 replies
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Here's Why the Twins Haven't Gone Hard After Pitching
h2oface replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I would disagree. The youth that is playing baseball in the minors have been playing most of their life. They now have trainers and family and coaches that groom them to be baseball players with fervor with clinics and camps and weight training and cross training and private coaching at very young ages and carry it on and on. I see it all the time. They spend a lot of money on it, too. So by the time these youth are 18 and 19, they have had more baseball than players used to have accumulated well into their 20s, and certainly by the time they are 23. Their development is heightened and accelerated immensely year by passing year now. And I doubt many of them stopped working on their game on their own during 2020, either. In this light, one could say that the same applies to any minor-leaguer. In this light 19 is the new 23, not the opposite. One year doesn't really take away all the others. And in regard to the last time an AL Central champion was propelled in any significant way by a big free agent starting pitcher..... I don't know why that statement must be limited to an AL Central champion, and not all of MLB, because it has happened in MLB a lot. And the AL Central is in MLB. After all, the goal is always to win the World Series, not the AL Central, right?- 94 replies
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Here's Why the Twins Haven't Gone Hard After Pitching
h2oface replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If I stand outside of being a Twins' fan and look at these pitchers that are supposed to be the future and the saviors of this team and it's seemingly now 7 year plan FO (is that enough time, yet?), I am not impressed at all, and with only Balazovic raised in our own farm rated in the top 100 of MLB prospects (Ryan is a recent trade), it seems that others outside of being a Twins' fan are equally unimpressed. It is what it is, now, as our guys were trying to figure out how to navigate while others were already sailing, and already caught all the fish that weren't in the home net. It could all happen. Sure. Maybe it will. I hope it will. That would impress me. Right now, I enjoy the optimism, but am not pretending to be impressed just because I am a Twins' fan. We will need a lot of luck. A ton of luck.- 94 replies
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This team is in big truouble from the mound, all aspects. And when you look at the Top 100 and top 10 MLB position prospects, only Twins' fans seem to think our farm is promising.
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Twins Future Position Analysis: Second Base
h2oface replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
No. I am saying what I said. I keep reading people say that the Twins won't be competing for the playoffs in 2022. Nobody gave the Giants a chance last year, and they won the most games in MLB! I don't believe any team should consider themselves not competing. The whole point is to compete. No need for a self fulfilling prophecy in my look to the future. With this FO and how they handled 2021 and the run up to the lockout, I have become quite ambivalent about what they do at all.- 22 replies
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Thankful Diaz is out at third base. We need Ron Washington there! Tony was just a rally killer, holding the speedy runners and sending the turtles. Just awful.
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Twins Future Position Analysis: Second Base
h2oface replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Remember..... The Giants weren't going to be playing for the playoffs last year either..........- 22 replies
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We? Well, I wasn't talking to you but you can be we if you like ......... part of the conversation about long-term solutions and the lack of them. I was answering a reply, right? Why don't you call the premise of the posts talking about Jax and Thorpe and Shoemaker and Happ and Dobnak and Thorpe and Odorizzi and Pineda and Robles and Parker (I'm sure I missed some) in this thread phony too, as they also have nothing to do with whether signing Dylan Bundy was a good idea, but are an aside in the conversations here. May as well get it all out if that makes you feel good.
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Who is New Twins Pitcher Jake Faria?
h2oface replied to Lucas Seehafer PT's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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" a 2020 season in which he finished ninth in AL Cy Young voting. He went 6-3 with a 3.29 ERA and a 1.04 WHIP over 11 starts and 65 2/3 innings. He also struck out 72 batters and walked just 17. He was in a lot of rumors at that season's trade deadline. The Twins certainly are hoping that he returns to that form. " Again, a 60 day, 2 month season. Like Maeda. They have not proven that it will ever happen again. Even Nolasco had a 2 month streak like these guys! The Falvine braintrust spent the whole sprint up to the lockout navigating only to Bundy for pitching needs (does one even count Jharel Cotton?) , while the rest of the league did the real work, and now the shelves are pretty bare at the free agent store. These guys are asleep at the wheel.
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I disagree. At the time he was dealt, he absolutely was a long term solution (and 3 years, for the Twins is also long term!). To assume that Santana would have had the same future if he wasn't traded is, well, ..... go ahead, but the future cannot be assumed to be the same in my world, butterfly effect and all...... "when the Twins dealt him", he definitely was a long term solution. Just as Toronto signing/extending Berrios to a contract that the Twins could have easily afforded, is a long term solution. If he gets hurt that will change, but right now, he is a long term solution - just to another team.
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I agree, except it is the Twins MO to take those long-term solutions and ship them out just when they become the long term solution. Therefore, with the Twins, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A LONG-TERM SOLUTION! See ya later Santana and Berrios..... we like the bottom of the barrel and the hope and dreams from the reclaimation pile. That is how we replace the pitchers and players that other teams get great value contracts on. We just trade them or let them go for nothing.
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My top 10 rule changes: 1. Electronic strike zone. 2. Electronic strike zone. 3. Electronic strike zone. 4. Electronic strike zone. 5. Electronic strike zone. 6. Electronic strike zone. 7. Electronic strike zone. 8. Electronic strike zone. 9. Electronic strike zone. 10. Electronic strike zone.
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Former Twins Cooperstown Case: David Ortiz
h2oface replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
This is kinda funny to include Ortiz in the "make a case" club for the Twins. Sure, he is an ex-Twin, and a tragic story for us, but anything he did while on the Twins is just a reason for him not getting in the HOF. Anything in his line as a plus for the HOF happened on the Red Sox. -
Exactly. But I would say that Framing's primary goal is to cheat and fool the umpire, not to prevent mistakes..... but to create more mistakes. The best framer doesn't move their glove at all on the close pitches, even if they are outside. Jeffers always jerks his glove in, even if you doesn't need to. Plus, I saw a bunch of Wild Pitches scored against his battery mates that should have been caught. That doesn't show up in the stat line. Umpires are just guessing with a horrible angle, and many even miss the call when they are looking right at it over the inside shoulder and it is on the inside to the zone area. Then they are so arrogant about the calls they missed. Such a show, and not a show about baseball, and talent, but control and power. Framing is all about making something it isn't, and we are way overdue to change that. It is hard and unreliable to rate any infielder defensively anymore, because half the time they aren't even close to playing their position anyway. I would have scored Simmons with at least twice as many errors than he was given by the charity working official scorers, who give out hits like candy. If this team has to build an infield to accommodate inferior pitchers like Dobnak, we are really in trouble.
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Former Twins Cooperstown Case: Joe Nathan
h2oface replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Between the Baseball Writer's and Golden Days 40 players on the ballots, 7 are former Twins! Good luck to Joe. I would vote for you. It could be a 10 year process, though. -
Former Twins Cooperstown Case: David Ortiz
h2oface replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The Hall of Fame is a private club, its leaders make the voting rules, and they say a voter must consider the candidate’s character. While it is not the same as likeability, it is kind of similar, so as long as that is part of the voting rules, it remains a valid reason. Bonds (61.8% on the ninth ballot), Sosa (17%), Clemens (61.6%) - as well as Curt Schilling, who is not on the steroid list and got 71.1% - are all on their last "Baseball Writer's" ballot in 2022. We will see if the passing years mean that they got less guilty, I guess. -
Former Twins Cooperstown Case: David Ortiz
h2oface replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think they should all get in, the steroid tainted stars. Bonds, A-Roid, McGwire, Sosa, Clemens, Manny Ramirez, Palmiero, and Ortiz (did I leave someone out?) There should just be a special room, or branch in the HOF........ the HOS or the HOSF - the Hall Of Shame or the Hall Of Shame Fame. Most would have gotten in without it, and it was their own vanity and morality and greed that took them to the chosen behaviors, because they were addicted to the admiration and fame and all. The "everybody else was doing it" or "management and the commissioner looked the other way" excuse doesn't make it OK, just as it doesn't for most families' children. But they are part of baseball, and they were among the greatest that ever played. HOS is for them to be showcased for the truth and performance. -
Twins No-Hitters: Jack Kralick (1962)
h2oface replied to Sherry Cerny's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
"1962 was his last full season with the Twins. In early May of 1963, Kralick was traded to Cleveland in exchange for righty Jim Perry. Yes, the Jim Perry that is in the Twins Hall of Fame. " Yes! When MLB players were traded for MLB players............ not a bunch of prospects. I miss those trades. Perry was overshawdowed by Camillio Pascual, Mudcat Grant, and Jim Kaat in the 1965 World Series (Grant and Kaat each started 3 games!) and pushed to only 4 innings from the pen, (giving up 2 tack on runs in the final 3 innings of the game 5 7-0 Dodger win, and the final scoreless inning of the fateful game 7 2-0 loss), and Dean Chance got the thunder in 1967. Perry had those amazing 2 years in '69 and '70.... we just couldn't get past Baltimore and in the ALCS those years.... -
I have still yet to see, anywhere, whether the Berrios contract is Canadian dollars or US. 80% of the value if Canadian. I would rather have Berrios. The two in trade are still, and may always be, minor league players, and neither were close to awesome last year, even in the minors. My bet is Toronto got a steal.... and a future Cy Young winner. I will miss his defense, too. We will probablay sign some fat out of shape stranger that will under perform his contract and works a tenth as hard as Berrios on his craft. I will miss seeing him skip off the mound at the end of the inning....... Maeda was better? For all of 2 months? A little over 60 days? It was a nice 2 months.... but even Ricky Nolasco had a similar 2 months....... it just wasn't a 2 month season.
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It appears that @Brock Beauchamp has unmasked himself as the Mauer debater. Maybe I keep missing it, but has this been officially unmasked in the thread? Perhaps when you do, instead of burying it in the thread somewhere, like debate 1, it could be added to the heading so it is easy to go back and see?
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Let me see if I can ask this again so it communicates ..... "Is this a debate between commenters with 3 and 5 previous posts? " I have no question about the rules or anything that you have all posted to set this up. The question is specific. The little comment cloud thingy under each of our names provides us with the info on the total number of posts we all have made.... both of you have thousands and thousands. These clouds under the debaters showed 3 and 5, seeming to indicate that they were both new commenters to the site. Perhaps the comment cloud was reset for the a debate, for the temporary A and B name because you didn't want us to know? That is my question. Thanks for the repeat info, though I was still curious if the debaters were brand new to the site. I am sure it will be answered when they are revealed, but that was the question.
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I don't "kiss my sister". Debate judging is about chosing a winner, not avoiding being a judge. I think that option should be removed. If you can't chose, just don't vote. Since this is a debate about who is the better player, and not the success of the teams they played on in the playoffs (Ted Williams only got to play in one post season series, the 1946 World Series, and he only hit .200) - even though I would have voted for Puckett before the debate, (and I saw all the seasons of these players as an adult, and not a wonder eyed kid), I now have to, post debate, go with Mauer as the better player.

